Breaking: Ron Paul on Jay Leno- Unofficial Announcement of Running in 2016 + No 2012 3rd Party Run

Originally posted by RealSpoke

10 reasons to get your money back from Ron Paul Inc

Ron Paul milked his followers for money then employed all of his family to run his campaign....he paid them gigantic salaries instead of spending money on more ads and active campaigning ........... real honorable.

Nepotist

RP was never there to win...it was a scheme to get his fam money and start a career for Rand.

edit on 5-9-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

Did Rand Paul get any of that money? Is that fact? If so, that's sickening. Rand is the biggest sellout of all time. Worse than a flip floppin' Romney or Obama. Rand makes me sick to my stomach when I see him a his pubic hair mop on his head.

He got the world talking, which is worth the few million donated IMO. And certainly worth the 40$ I gave to his campaign.

Better to hire the family, people he trusts, than other people. Make fun of Rand all you want, but he has to play by the rules to get in good enough to make a run. He can make runs all the way up until 2024 if he keeps at it, plenty of time to runs the show how he'd like.

reply to post by freemarketsocialist


Oh.. Nader and Ron Paul are very different.
The Liberty movement is not just Ron Paul. They are supporting the small government candidates in all local elections and so forth. Not to mention it's way bigger than Nader's "movement" AND it's common sense so it will only grow.

These are Paul people that are taking it way too seriously right now. He was congenial and nice, his only purpose ever was to spread a message of common sense and liberty and he did a fantastic job. He isn't trying to string anyone along. He didn't announce a 2016 run, he obviously and clearly told jay he was kidding after he said that.

reply to post by CALGARIAN


Yeah.. I am hoping Rand isn't an establisment puppet but kind of a sleeper for the liberty party. Playing along until he is popular enough.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by CALGARIAN

 

Yeah.. I am hoping Rand isn't an establisment puppet but kind of a sleeper for the liberty party. Playing along until he is popular enough.

Any guy who can say that Romney is a patriot when he's for the NDAA and say it with a straight face.. CANNOT be trusted to represent the liberty movement. Not now or ever.... Heh

I really doubt Ron Paul will run in 2016. The man is really old and he how has no actual political power. It will be hard for him to stay in the spot light as a `fighter for liberty` if he is not on the hill mixing it up. He does not have a flamboyant public personality and tends to distance himself from supporters at times.

Yet, stranger things have happen so I cannot totally count Ron Paul out in 2016 but I will be surprised to see his name on the GOP ticket in 2016.

reply to post by freedomwv


Freedom,

Is your last name Brevik? Heheeh

If we all make it through this transitional period I will be very curious to see what happens of the liberty movement.. if there is still a country left to move.

reply to post by drnen


When the SHTF, I'm runnin'!! You guys can set up the new liberty movement. I'll be crackin' coconuts in Tonga and eatin' lobster in my straw hut.

What's more important is preserving my family and my DNA. Not fighting a engineered bankers war.

In 2016 Ron Paul will be in his EIGHTIES. No 80+ year old can take the rigors of office.
(that's not 'age-ism .. that's just reality. Even 40 year olds have a hard time with it let alone 80+ )

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by stereotype

RUN RON RUN!

He underatands a vote for him is a vote for Obama....and he doesn't want that....

Not true. Polls from as recently as May show that Ron running 3rd party would actually hurt Obama.

Rasmussen: Ron Paul Presidential Bid Would Hurt Obama

But good job giving in to the mainstream media refrain

2016? That would put him around 81 years old, ending his first term at around 85, and then 89 at the end of a second term. To date the oldest US president at time of inauguration was Ronald Reagan who was 69.

HOLY CRAP


Do you people even realize he said he was kidding at the end of the statement or were you too caught up with the applause from the audience to hear it?

For the love of sanity, I enjoy Paul and support him all the way as the next guy, but clean the wax out of your ears, take your heads out of your asses (or vice versa), and understand Ron Paul is not running in 2016.

It was a joke.

I've been a Ron Paul supporter and he's the only candidate I've ever given money to but at this point, I'm over it.

We need a REAL alternative and that means starting a new political party with specific mandates to address the career corruption in Government. That means strict rules on campaign funds, no "war chests" (left over funds go back to the party to be split among candidates with active campaigns), consequences for screwing over your contributors once you're in office and TERM LIMITS.

Unfortunately Ron just isn't willing to do what it takes to overcome the corruption built into the current electoral system. He's too worried about keeping himself just to the right of where he needs to be and holding onto his current office. I'm tired of watching him bail out on all the people who worked to try and elect him and allowing his delegates to get screwed over by the party establishment.

Where's the lawsuits to challenge all the crap they pull on his supporters every year? Where's the anger and the backbone to stand up and say what needs to be said without pulling punches?

Where's the willingness to run a 3rd party in the election? I'd honestly rather watch Obama serve another term if that's what it takes to put some fear into the established political parties with a strong 3rd party race.

Otherwise he and his supporters are just a big joke to them. They know they can play games and bend rules and that eventually Ron will step aside again just like every other election cycle.

I think the framework of the Ron Paul campaign should be used to create a viable 3rd party and start putting forth candidates who aren't afraid to see things all the way through, regardless of success or failure. That's the only way we can begin to try and create real change in the current system.

We need young blood, new ideas and people willing to fight. Ron is just too old, too tired and too attached to the current system to create real and lasting change.

reply to post by foodstamp


Probably not, it is disappointing. It took Ron Paul so long to get here and he will likely be considered too old in 2016. I really would like to see his supporters start the official liberty party. I would also like to see him raise up a really great liberty party candidate.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by foodstamp

 

Probably not, it is disappointing. It took Ron Paul so long to get here and he will likely be considered too old in 2016. I really would like to see his supporters start the official liberty party. I would also like to see him raise up a really great liberty party candidate.

He isn't running in 2016 because he was kidding.

But a new party isn't a bad idea....but let's try to get an existing 3rd party acknowledged first before making a new one, k?

Originally posted by frequentflyer
reply to post by RealSpoke

 

I would like to remove one of the couple stars from your post. Your talking nothing but hogwash, and seem to be completely oblivious. Mods, we need a star removal feature.

If I had a star for each time I've read your posts and wanted to take a star away...i'd have a LOT of stars.

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
He isn't running in 2016 because he was kidding.

At least you actually watched the video before making a thread about it

SeventhSeal is right. If you watch the video you clearly see him say, "Just kidding" after his "announcement". There will be no Ron Paul 2016 Presidential run and these threads really belong in the HOAX bin.

But a new party isn't a bad idea....but let's try to get an existing 3rd party acknowledged first before making a new one, k?

Great point. We have third, fourth, fifth parties. There is no shortage of Parties out there. The problem is, these other Parties are ignored. They are not invited to debates. They are not spoken of in the Media and they are not a part of the social consciousness.

So what do we do now?

I am glad you asked. Here is the phone number for the Commission for Federal Debates: (202) 872-1020. Call and ask them to include Gary Johnson, Jill Stein and Virgil Goode in the Presidential Debates. They are extending invitations through Mid September, so time is short to make it happen. BE POLITE.

Chances are, making this happen will be a difficult process and probably won't even happen this year.. it will be a process, but if we won't do it. It won't happen. No one will do it for you.

People I think it is time to realise that the entire electoral and democratic system can no longer be relied upon. Looking at the past couple decades of presidents we can see that they are different heads of the same dragon. I have come to the conclusion that someone like Ron Paul, someone who was in tune with the people, someone willing to speak up for the real issues will never be allowed to become president. All faith in this democratic system is lost, it is corrupt, it has been proven time and time again that it does not work. Weather its wall street backing, or the MSM media backing the 'chosen' candidates, this system gives only the illussion of choice to the people.

The fact that someone like Ron Paul could not make it to the candidacy despite his support and credentials is evidence of this. Waiting for the next election for a change is to ignore the past and to hope in a miracle. The establishment will never allow real change through conventional means. The real question I think is where do we go from here???...

Isn't this just another example of how all political opinions are catered for yet the outcome is rigged? The first and biggest gang is still running the show.