Paul Ryan Exposes Elite Agenda, "Shut Up" Says Banker , page 1

Hedge Fund manager John Taylor would like Paul Ryan to shut up about his cuts because this type of stuff should only be talked about "behind closed doors." The peons can't know what the elite want to do to screw them over.

So now you know the elite agenda, privatize medicare, screw over the poor and retired butttttttt make sure you do it behind closed doors.

reply to post by RealSpoke

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I'll go ahead and flag it because I think you're smart. But, I won't comment here.

reply to post by RealSpoke

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I remain confused by the point of this thread or by how you arrived at the conclusion that Ryan 'exposed' a hidden elitist agenda by discussing his Medicare plan?

In my opinion, this thread is a muddled mess of sophomoric logic and assertions...

A single hedge fund manager makes the point that discussions on changing Medicare loses elections and advocates that such changes requires secrecy to make it happen, and you convert that into elitist agenda (and by way of implication, presumably, a right-wing one)?

Is your objection the 'secrecy' component??? Because if it is, I certainly hope your interest in John Taylor's perspective pales in comparison to your actual interest in the atrocious 'secrecy' record of Obama and his administration- one that even makes Bush look good in this regard.

Where are your threads on that?

Probing Obama’s secrecy games

Mr. Obama campaigned for the presidency in 2008 by denouncing his predecessor’s secret prisons and brutal interrogations, which were public knowledge only because of leaks of classified information to the news media. He began his term by pledging the most transparent administration in history.

In office, however, he has outdone all previous presidents in mounting criminal prosecutions over such leaks, overseeing six such cases to date, compared with three under all previous administrations combined.

or

Obama reneges on secrecy pledge

There were no cameras around to record whether President Obama was winking when, on his first full day in office, he signed an executive order and two presidential memorandums declaring that “every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information, but those who seek to make it known.”

But surely he must have been. No White House in my lifetime — not even that of the infamously secretive Richard Nixon — has been more of an attack dog when it comes to preserving governmental secrecy.

or...

President Obama's muddy transparency record

But three years into his presidency, critics say Obama’s administration has failed to deliver the refreshing blast of transparency that the president promised.

“Obama is the sixth administration that’s been in office since I’ve been doing Freedom of Information Act work. … It’s kind of shocking to me to say this, but of the six, this administration is the worst on FOIA issues. The worst. There’s just no question about it,” said Katherine Meyer, a Washington lawyer who’s been filing FOIA cases since 1978. “This administration is raising one barrier after another. … It’s gotten to the point where I’m stunned — I’m really stunned.”

The examples could go on and on....

So what exactly was your point again?

That Ryan would govern more openly?

reply to post by totallackey

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Don't even get me started on Congress!

reply to post by FlyersFan

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..No Paul Ryan is not doing a good thing. He is doing a bad thing, but they want him to stop doing it so openly. They want the sneak attack to remain sneaky you see.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by FlyersFan

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..No Paul Ryan is not doing a good thing. He is doing a bad thing, but they want him to stop doing it so openly. They want the sneak attack to remain sneaky you see.

This PEOPLE ^^^^^

HELLO.

I thought it would be extremely easy to figure this out.

reply to post by RealSpoke

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(alot of the "conservatives" on this site are... kinda dumb)

Privatizing medicare is a bad thing in our current system. In a perfect America it wouldn't be. If we had a total free markey where there weren't giant monopolies then competition would drive prices down, but we don't have that. So until something is fixed my libertarian ideals can't help here. In a legit capatilist free market society this wouldn't be as bad as it would be now. Now we don't have actual capitalism, we have corporatism and monopolies. So it sucks and we can't let it be privatised until many other things fix first.

See people like Paul Ryan are trying this "top down libertarianism" which would actually completely DESTROY people. If you break the system from the bottom then by the time you start working on things like medicare you people have a whole free market full of options, but if you start privatizing and making free market from the top where the monopolies are the tallest buildings (only option people have/things people rely on) you ruin people.

reply to post by hawkiye

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It doesn't in anyway leave you thinking he's a good guy, you guys need to consider past the headline.
But yeah, he is scum.

reply to post by RealSpoke

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The Federal Reserve Bank steals the most money from the people, yet they stay under the radar.

Mean while people fight over which type for tyranny we should have, right or left.

I'm going to be sick.

Originally posted by IndieA
reply to post by RealSpoke

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The Federal Reserve Bank steals the most money from the people, yet they stay under the radar.

Mean while people fight over which type for tyranny we should have, right or left.

I'm going to be sick.

Time to clean house, both houses and the white house and start over.

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