Romney camp doubles down on Russia as "geopolitical foe"

This.
Romney is a pretty corrupt human being that would make some of the dictators in other countries blush via his cutthroat tactics in stepping over the backs of others.

Also, We lambasted China a long time ago on the their human rights based on the number of people they have in prison, and now we top them.

We do not have Democracy anymore, but an oligarch running the show.
We used to have freedom of choice when it came to what we wish to buy, but that has all changed with the merger of state, corporate and financial sectors, being subsidized off our tax dollars, or buying politicians to fight for companies not having to label GMO foods. I could go on and on.

The only thing we have left is freedom of speech, but even that is now limited with free speech zones.

The enemies of this country, and you can call them socialists, fascists, oligarch etc, it does not matter, but they are the Mega Corporations and Banks that are in bed with our government, where the heads of these entities go in DC and back out to their company to rig the system to their favor.

Originally posted by killuminati2012
I love the irony of Mitt critiquing their democracy. The only reason he is a candidate in the U.S. is because of our corrupt system that is far from democratic.

Thing is Ollncasino, the warmongers in both countries have their own agenda, and it is not to my and many other people's best interests in both countries.

I'll be responsible and not support these warmonger's even to my deathbed and have a clean conscious in doing the right thing in the afterlife, while these people will be roasting in hell.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Maxmars
Thanks you cabal of think-tanks, Madison Avenue, Hollywood and the 5 corporate controllers of global media... you are successfully creating a hell on Earth. Good luck with that.... but I'm not buying into it ever again.

While I agree that the "5 corporate controllers of global media" are doing their best to push their own agenda, you are making a mistake if you consequently assume that the Russians don't have their own agenda.

Originally posted by leosnake
U.S. submarines are constantly present in the Barents sea near the border of Russia, the Russians consider as one of the main reasons of death of the submarine "Kursk" - collision with an American submarine in the Russian territorial waters by the way

U.S. and Russian/Soviet forces have been playing cat and mouse for 65 years and there have been a few incidents. The Soviet submarine K-19 was involved in a collision with U.S.S. Gato and there are similar rumours about the loss of USS Scorpion.

In the case of the K-141 Kursk, the entire submarine was recovered and it was conclusively proven that the sinking was due to a faulty weld in a torpedo's propulsion system.

Back on topic, Mitt Romney is correct in his assessment that Russia is a concern.

To believe otherwise is naive.

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I guess you still remember back in the good old days when kings and leaders fought next to their armies and died with their armies. that seems to have gone out the window.

Maybe if our leaders would have to enter the field of battle next to the troops in a life and situation and not sit somewhere safe thousands of miles away laughing it up at our expense, there wouldn't be so many wars.

Russia and the USA should be allies and have common goals, Its our so called leaders that keep up the charade and pit us against one an other for their own personal gain and amusement .

Most people are blind to this and will believe what ever they are told and follow these idiots and jump a cliff if told to do so.

Its a vicious cycle that needs to be broken, people need to wake up already, but i don't think that will ever happen sadly enough.

Russia is hollowing up nation with decreasing population and increasing ratio of old to young. Worst, it is very corrupt, lawless and 'backward' vis-a-vis western standards and its economy is totally dependent on energy prices. How can such a nation be a geo-political enemy. With ABM systems in place, US now pretty much has answers to Russian ICBMs laden with nukes.

Militarily speaking US has no enemy or hostile nation that can come near to touching it, let alone pushing or punching. Biggest threat to US is its own economic policies which have allround effects on every pulse of its society.

Originally posted by victor7
Russia is hollowing up nation with decreasing population and increasing ratio of old to young. Worst, it is very corrupt, lawless and 'backward' vis-a-vis western standards and its economy is totally dependent on energy prices. How can such a nation be a geo-political enemy. With ABM systems in place, US now pretty much has answers to Russian ICBMs laden with nukes.

Militarily speaking US has no enemy or hostile nation that can come near to touching it, let alone pushing or punching. Biggest threat to US is its own economic policies which have allround effects on every pulse of its society.

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Due to the conditions of the strategic arms limitation treaties of the 1970's, the Russian military currently holds parity with the U.S. in the nuclear arena.

The economic hardships of the 90's eroded the conventional capabilities of the once mighty Soviet Armed Forces to a shadow of their former selves with the exception of the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces.

The current priority for Russian military modernisation is their nuclear arsenal, specifically delivery systems.

U.S. ABM capabilities are not capable of neutralising the Russian threat. The only U.S. defence system capable of intercepting ICBM's is the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense which has a total of 30 interceptors deployed on the west coast.

The THAAD, SM-3 and to a lesser degree the Patriot are designed to provide theatre defence against slower intermediate and short range ballistic missiles (like the infamous Scud) and a very limited ability to intercept ICBM warheads within a small envelope.

The U.S. could probably successfully negate a few single warhead missiles in an attack by the DPRK or possibly even the PRC, Russia still maintains hundreds of mirved ICBM's which would overwhelm the current U.S. systems.

I anyone has any doubts about Russia's long term ambitions, look at the current fiasco over the proposed US missile defense complex in Poland. The system has no offensive capability but the Russians threw a fit going so far as making thinly veiled threats of aggression, all the while pouring billions into a next generation SLBM specifically designed to beat ABM systems.

I personally don't foresee a cold war "redux", Vladimir Putin is deadly serious about restoring Russia's place on the world stage. To lose sight of that would be a grave error in foreign policy.

Again, this is the President of the Russian Federation... attaching a tracking collar to a tiger he just shot with a tranquilliser.


All kidding aside, Vladimir Putin has reinstated strategic aviation flights (cancelled in the early 90's) The TU-160 fleet has been thoroughly modernised and Putin has requested that the fleet be increased by a dozen aircraft by 2030


The VVS has also maintained and continues to modernise a sizable number of strategic strike capable (with the refuelling probes reinstalled)TU-22M's


There is also a reason Russia continues to develop the RSM-56 Bulavawhich has been exceptionally troubled (even by ex-Soviet standards) and hugely expensive (even by U.S. military industrial complex standards.)


These are all offensive weapons whose only purpose is to project political will across great distances.

The Russian Federation are putting the pieces in place to reassert themselves as a serious player on the world stage, they absolutely should be taken seriously when predicting the global balance of power in the near future.

I don't see the problem with Mitt Romney's taking note of this during his presidential campaign. I find it preferable to President Obama's stance which was accidentally made public due to a hot mike during his meeting with then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

A day earlier, Mr. Obama was caught on tape telling Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he needed “space” this year to put his re-election campaign behind him before taking up missile-defense negotiations with the Russians.
“After my election, I have more flexibility,” he told Mr. Medvedev, unaware that their conversation was being recorded by a journalist.

Republicans fear Obama will sell out to Russia/President denies ‘hiding the ball’

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The Tupolev Tu-160 (Russian: Туполев Ту-160, NATO reporting name: Blackjack) is a supersonic, variable-sweep wing heavy strategic bomber designed by the Tupolev Design Bureau in the Soviet Union. Although several civil and military transport aircraft are larger in overall dimensions, the Tu-160 is currently the world's largest combat aircraft, largest supersonic aircraft, and largest variable-sweep aircraft built. In addition, the Tu-160 has the heaviest takeoff weight of any military aircraft besides transports.

Entering service in 1987, the Tu-160 was the last strategic bomber designed for the Soviet Union. The aircraft remains in limited production, with at least 16 aircraft currently in service with the Russian Air Force.
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The Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit (also known as the Stealth Bomber) is an American strategic bomber, featuring low observable stealth technology designed for penetrating dense anti-aircraft defenses; it is able to deploy both conventional and nuclear weapons. The bomber has a crew of two and can drop up to eighty 500 lb (230 kg)-class JDAM GPS-guided bombs, or sixteen 2,400 lb (1,100 kg) B83 nuclear bombs. The B-2 is the only aircraft that can carry large air-to-surface standoff weapons in a stealth configuration.

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Originally posted by leosnake

Romney camp doubles down on Russia as "geopolitical foe"

thecable.foreignpolicy.com

TAMPA - Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was right when he called Russia America's "No. 1 geopolitical foe" and a Romney administration would confront Moscow on its poor record on democracy, human rights, and the rule of law, two top foreign-policy advisors to the GOP candidate said Tuesday.

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remembering the "Canadian Bacon"
Old trick - to distract people's attention from the problems in the country artificially creating an image of an external enemy and encouraging militaristic hysteria in the country.

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what could be the external threats to the country with a military budget larger than the military budgets of all countries of the world combined?