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Romney camp doubles down on Russia as "geopolitical foe"

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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Romney camp doubles down on Russia as "geopolitical foe"


thecable.foreignpolicy.com

TAMPA - Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was right when he called Russia America's "No. 1 geopolitical foe" and a Romney administration would confront Moscow on its poor record on democracy, human rights, and the rule of law, two top foreign-policy advisors to the GOP candidate said Tuesday.

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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Romney camp doubles down on Russia as “geopolitical foe”

only a madman or a racist may call the Russian enemies of Americans .Hitler called all the Russian enemies of Germany only after the outbreak of war with Russia, and what will happen now? The Americans and the Russians will be killing each other?

thecable.foreignpolicy.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by leosnake
only a madman or a racist may call the Russian enemies of Americans


I have spoken to a number of Russians on this issue and they do see America as the enemy.

No ifs, no buts. The USA is the enemy. If the US had lost the cold war, would you see the USSR as your friend?

Romney clearly has a better grasp of how Russians think than you do.

But then, people who go around calling other people madmen or racists often refuse to see past their own ignorance.



edit on 29-8-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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I love the irony of Mitt critiquing their democracy. The only reason he is a candidate in the U.S. is because of our corrupt system that is far from democratic.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Isn't it funny (not "ha ha" funny) when the thespians in the political theater attempt to create an issue so "they" can solve it?

So Americans... people who go to work every day - selling their time for money, and Russians who likewise trade their time for wages, are supposed to be each others 'enemies'?

Listen people, the enemies are in office. They are not "us" and haven't wanted to be "us" for several generations now. Their public faces and media lackeys tell us that "we love them" and "they are our heroes".... meanwhile they sell all of us Russians and Americans down the river to a central bank so they can afford to continue paying their minions to keep the cycle going.

This political "meme" of 'declaring" an enemy state is insulting to almost anyone who has traveled or lived abroad.

The political crew determines the tune... and the puppets they "sell" us march on.

I doubt anyone with half a brain can fail to recognize exactly how the social engineering/consensus creating process works. Thanks you cabal of think-tanks, Madison Avenue, Hollywood and the 5 corporate controllers of global media... you are successfully creating a hell on Earth. Good luck with that.... but I'm not buying into it ever again.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by leosnake
only a madman or a racist may call the Russian enemies of Americans


I have spoken to a number of Russians on this issue and they see America as the enemy.

No ifs, no buts. The USA is the enemy.





That hasn't been my experience. I would actually say many view the U.S. favorably compared to their own government. But of course there are the people who hate the U.S. too



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by killuminati2012
That hasn't been my experience. I would actually say many view the U.S. favorably compared to their own government. But of course there are the people who hate the U.S. too


I see your location is western Virginia, hence presumably you are an American speaking to Russians.

I have an advantage over you in terms of gauging Russian opinion. I am not an American speaking to Russians.

Do Russians hate the USA? Not really, although clearly some do.

Do they tend to see the USA as a natural enemy? Undoubtedly.

I wish it were not so, but that is the way it is. Interestingly, Russian females can actually be the most aggressive, or at least they make their intense dislike for the USA the most transparent.


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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by leosnake


Romney camp doubles down on Russia as “geopolitical foe”

only a madman or a racist may call the Russian enemies of Americans .Hitler called all the Russian enemies of Germany only after the outbreak of war with Russia, and what will happen now? The Americans and the Russians will be killing each other?

thecable.foreignpolicy.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


You may want to google "cold war", the U.S. and U.S.S.R. spent trillions of dollars on massive nuclear and conventional arsenals specifically designed to destroy each other.

The U.S.S.R. has since been replaced by the Russian Federation but many of the ideologies remain intact. Russia very much wants to regain its superpower status and is once again beginning to flex their strategic muscle.

How would you interpret actions such as these?

RUSSIAN NUCLEAR-CAPABLE BOMBERS INTERCEPTED NEAR US WEST COAST

The bomber flights near the Pacific and earlier flights near Alaska appear to be signs Moscow is practicing the targeting of its long-range air-launched cruise missiles on two strategic missile defense sites, one at Fort Greely, Alaska and a second site at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. In May, Russian Gen. Nikolai Makarov, the chief of the Russian General Staff, said during a Moscow conference that because missile defense systems are destabilizing,

“A decision on preemptive use of the attack weapons available will be made when the situation worsens.” The comments highlighted Russian opposition to planned deployments of U.S. missile defense interceptors and sensors in Europe.


Two Russian submarines patrolling off U.S. East Coast

WASHINGTON — Russian nuclear-powered submarines have been patrolling off the US East Coast in recent days, the first such move in several years and one that has US officials concerned, the New York Times said Wednesday.

Citing defense and intelligence officials speaking on condition of anonymity, a report on the paper’s website said one submarine remained in international waters some 200 miles (320 kilometers) off the US coast, while the location of the other remained unclear.The pair were Akula class vessels, the paper said.

The episode does not appear to pose any immediate threat to the United States, but it echoes the cat-and-mouse manouvers of the Soviet and US militaries during the Cold War, when Moscow and Washington routinely sent submarines towards one another’s coasts to gather intelligence and track fleet movements.


Undetected Russian nuclear sub 'patrolled Gulf of Mexico'

“Sending a nuclear-propelled submarine into the Gulf of Mexico-Caribbean region is another manifestation of President Putin demonstrating that Russia is still a player on the world’s political-military stage,” and that Russia was “showing the flag,” Naval analyst and submarine warfare specialist Norman Polmar said to the Free Beacon.

The Washington Free Beacon exposed blasted the Russian president as an “ex-KGB intelligence officer” who “wants to restore elements of Russia’s Soviet Communist past,” and has adopted a hardline policy towards Russian-US relations.

edit on 29-8-2012 by Drunkenparrot because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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Now that the leaders in the US are almost done with Afghanistan and Iraq (Eastasia) they need a new external enemy.
Haven't you always been at war with Eurasia?



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Maxmars
Thanks you cabal of think-tanks, Madison Avenue, Hollywood and the 5 corporate controllers of global media... you are successfully creating a hell on Earth. Good luck with that.... but I'm not buying into it ever again.


While I agree that the "5 corporate controllers of global media" are doing their best to push their own agenda, you are making a mistake if you consequently assume that the Russians don't have their own agenda.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Money rules the world...and if that's true, Russia shouldn't be the US's main concern


Also, Russia? Really? Did we somehow magically jump back in time to the Cold War area?

I guess it'll appeal to his ageing voters



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Mitt just needs to invoke another boogeyman to drive fear into his followers. Russia is again forced to deal with insane rhetoric from insane American "leaders".

Mitt will start WWIII with Iran, and another cold war with Russia.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by oxykerfluffle
Mitt just needs to invoke another boogeyman to drive fear into his followers. Russia is again forced to deal with insane rhetoric from insane American "leaders".

Mitt will start WWIII with Iran, and another cold war with Russia.


Well...the oil & gas as well as the defence industry want to see a return on their investment


Also, what else is he supposed to do with the money he's going to save by screwing over the poor (tax plan), middle class (tax plan), women (anti-abortion/contraception), and the elderly (tax plan & benefits)?

There needs to be some balance...he can't just give it all to Wall Street

edit on 29-8-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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I know some Russians and they are alright folks. I even roomed with one in college.
Never had any issues with em, and actually they seemed to be pretty freedom oriented and favorable towards the Constitutional mindset.

That being said, if we had the Liberty movement calling the shots, Russians would be our #1 geopolitical trade partner, our number #1 ally in bringing stability and protecting human rights throughout the world.

But instead our system has been hijacked by a party of aristocratic nobility charged with authoritarian zealotry.

So be afraid people. The war drums are already beating. The blood pours from many nations around the world.
We have psychopaths in control of the world's weapon caches, governments, corporations, charities, etc.

Don't be surprised when psychopathic events begin to occur, that is the logical conclusion after all.

The political parties of death (republicans) and enslavement (democrats) beckons to us, to bow down and receive the guillotine. Want to avoid that decapitation? Don't get on your knees!



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

The political parties of death (republicans) and enslavement (democrats) beckons to us, to bow down and receive the guillotine.


Hah, maybe I got it backwards?

Maybe it's the Reps who are slave runners, and the Dems who represent death?

It's so hard to tell when they are the exact same.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Every day John Titor's nuclear exchange scenario seems more and more plausible. Not giving up hope 'till 2016.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by leosnake


Romney camp doubles down on Russia as “geopolitical foe”

only a madman or a racist may call the Russian enemies of Americans .Hitler called all the Russian enemies of Germany only after the outbreak of war with Russia, and what will happen now? The Americans and the Russians will be killing each other?

thecable.foreignpolicy.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


You may want to google "cold war", the U.S. and U.S.S.R. spent trillions of dollars on massive nuclear and conventional arsenals specifically designed to destroy each other.

The U.S.S.R. has since been replaced by the Russian Federation but many of the ideologies remain intact. Russia very much wants to regain its superpower status and is once again beginning to flex their strategic muscle.

How would you interpret actions such as these?

RUSSIAN NUCLEAR-CAPABLE BOMBERS INTERCEPTED NEAR US WEST COAST

The bomber flights near the Pacific and earlier flights near Alaska appear to be signs Moscow is practicing the targeting of its long-range air-launched cruise missiles on two strategic missile defense sites, one at Fort Greely, Alaska and a second site at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. In May, Russian Gen. Nikolai Makarov, the chief of the Russian General Staff, said during a Moscow conference that because missile defense systems are destabilizing,

“A decision on preemptive use of the attack weapons available will be made when the situation worsens.” The comments highlighted Russian opposition to planned deployments of U.S. missile defense interceptors and sensors in Europe.


Two Russian submarines patrolling off U.S. East Coast

WASHINGTON — Russian nuclear-powered submarines have been patrolling off the US East Coast in recent days, the first such move in several years and one that has US officials concerned, the New York Times said Wednesday.

Citing defense and intelligence officials speaking on condition of anonymity, a report on the paper’s website said one submarine remained in international waters some 200 miles (320 kilometers) off the US coast, while the location of the other remained unclear.The pair were Akula class vessels, the paper said.

The episode does not appear to pose any immediate threat to the United States, but it echoes the cat-and-mouse manouvers of the Soviet and US militaries during the Cold War, when Moscow and Washington routinely sent submarines towards one another’s coasts to gather intelligence and track fleet movements.


Undetected Russian nuclear sub 'patrolled Gulf of Mexico'

“Sending a nuclear-propelled submarine into the Gulf of Mexico-Caribbean region is another manifestation of President Putin demonstrating that Russia is still a player on the world’s political-military stage,” and that Russia was “showing the flag,” Naval analyst and submarine warfare specialist Norman Polmar said to the Free Beacon.

The Washington Free Beacon exposed blasted the Russian president as an “ex-KGB intelligence officer” who “wants to restore elements of Russia’s Soviet Communist past,” and has adopted a hardline policy towards Russian-US relations.

edit on 29-8-2012 by Drunkenparrot because: (no reason given)


U.S. submarines are constantly present in the Barents sea near the border of Russia, the Russians consider as one of the main reasons of death of the submarine "Kursk" - collision with an American submarine in the Russian territorial waters by the way



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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but what about the U.S. military bases around all the borders of Russia?



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

While I agree that the "5 corporate controllers of global media" are doing their best to push their own agenda, you are making a mistake if you consequently assume that the Russians don't have their own agenda.


I would make no such assumption. The competition of the global elite for "all the pieces on the board" is clear. I just recoil when their crappy attitude about life and their self-entitlement to rule by hook, crook, or force is attributed to the inhabitants of the countries they happen to be arrogantly calling "their people."

There is something to be said for the practice of having those who declare war actually fight in it. It kind of balances things out when they actually have to make the same sacrifices themselves as from those they demand be "loyal" to them.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Well, I suppose we're overdue for another big war.

It's a shame that when we lose power, the internet goes off and the sirens start screaming I won't be able to come on ATS and bash the Romney supporters. That is if they even stick around after the election.
edit on 29-8-2012 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)



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