reply to post by seeker1963
I am not talking about programs that people "paid into". I am assuming you are referring to Social Security and Medicare.
But consider that Social Security and Medicare are both in big trouble. This is partly due to mismanagement and partly due to the fact that inflation
has caused us to have to pay more out than was taken in. Please understand I referenced over spending in more ways than entitlements, but I really was
talking about welfare programs. But we need to look at the reason for it. People want the US to take care of the world's problems and the world's
poverty, but now we are so strapped with problems at home, it just doesn't make sense to keep it up. Now the UN wants the US to pay even more to help
out third world countries, because liberals have told the world the US uses the most resources. Well, China has overtaken the States, so instead of
borrowing money from China to give to the UN and also much foreign aid and other programs, let's rein it in a little, or a lot really. Defense
spending, well why did Obama go into Libya without Congressional approval? Obama is as leftist and pro-welfare state and pro military/industrial
establishment as anyone, but his agenda is to weaken the US, use up more of our resources and give foreign countries the advantage. Obama increased
govt spending on the federal level by hiring more govt employees and paying them higher wages than similar jobs in the private sector. So don't whine
to me about programs people paid into.
Obamacare guts Medicare to pay for his Obamacare programs which includes a huge amount of bureaucratic overhead. And you believe that is going to help
our economy? You think the Rockefellers and the Soros's are going to pay for it? AThat's the big lie the Democrats are telling you, that Warren Buffet
is really going to pay more taxes because the Obamalites are talking about raising taxes for anyone over $250,000. This is ludicrous at best.
Obama never stopped the baillouts of big corporations and Goldman Sachs and the bankers. If you think any of the regulations on the banking industry
are going to help you, you have another thing coming. He just started a program of nationalizing it is all.
Did you whine about your taxpayer dollars going to Brazilian Petrobas Oil ? No, I thought not.Everything needs to be taken into account.
Give the govt a blank check and they will spend it then print more.
Do you understand how the Fed works? Do you understand how printing money devalues the dollar? If you don't, then read "The Creature From Jekyll
Island" by G edward Griffin.
ok and then get back to me after
Also to clarify, I have been reading "The Shadow Party" by David Horowitz and Richard Poe. He explains how ACORN and other leftists organizations and
people (spcifically Wade Rathke and Cloward and Piven) got people to flood the welfare rolls with more and more people and this is the Cloward and
Piven strategy to overwhelm the system. After they did that, they began working on veter registration, and what they did was flood the voter rolls
with fraudulent registrations, and also made it easier(read de-regulated) the voter registration controls by relaxing rules and allowing the DMV to
invite people to register to vote without showing citizenship. Also mailing in votes was part of that. So now we have Republicans saying wait we have
to regulate voting rules again and now Democrats who say they love regulation suddenly say no we cannot do this it's racist.
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