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Alternative to a gold standard...

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posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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My ideology is not dangerous, its peaceful, but we dont live in my ideal world. I have a different set of core belief systems then you I suppose, but inevitably I do desire the same things as you, Just through a different manner. I viewed your comments as blaspheme because it was mocking, and unnecessary. God is important to me, and is related to all aspects of my life, including this. In my opinion, you need Jesus as much as I and everyone else does, but that is the core of my beliefs so dont fault me for telling you. I couldnt truly claim to follow Christ without telling you and everyone else they need Jesus, and I dont mean to offend so please dont take it that way.

I can see that we are at differing ends of the spectrum and it is my hopes that we can agree to disagree and rather then continuing in fighting, we should try and work together to try and come to solutions for the problems we can agree upon so that we can try and make this a better world.

Although I have to say eugenics is not going to be the thing that we will agree upon or be able to find common ground upon.

JESUS SAVES



posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by TheNamesZeppelin
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Although I have to say eugenics is not going to be the thing that we will agree upon or be able to find common ground upon.

JESUS SAVES


So you're for killing others as genetic inferiors? Because I'm against it, what are you implying?

You seem to be intelligent, but you don't really seem to read my posts before responding. You seem to skim, and then react emotionally rather than logically. Please take this as constructive criticism.

I respect your beliefs. I don't have an issue with God, it's his fan clubs I can't stand. Too many Christians don't even understand they're own religion, and that is supremely irritating. I apologize if I offended.

Please understand I disagree with the statements you made, not you as a person.

Have a great afternoon.



posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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He who controls the food, controls the world.............good thinking, but not so good of an idea....

Imagine cost of bread or pizza if the likes of George Soros, bought up the worlds wheat supply...
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posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by seeker1963
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He who controls the food, controls the world.............good thinking, but not so good of an idea....

Imagine cost of bread or pizza if the likes of George Soros, bought up the worlds wheat supply...
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Scary, The worlds grain would not mater, remember the dollar/bushel is capped at a determined price, therefore even if the price of a bushel goes below the cap, the dollar retains it value at the original set price cap. That's why I asked if it would be legal.
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posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by St Udio
there is something useful in the concept of Carbon Credits...

just like the Star Trek used 'Federation Credits' as their form of a fiat currency... which is eternally inflationary...

whereas Carbon Credits would factor in your individual Carbon footprint in an expected lifetime of resource use


the mumbo-jumbo of the Al Gore Folly of purchasing additional carbon tax credits...and certain oligarchs being paid huge sums of carbon tax credits is just like the present system of fiat money, bernanke dollars, not having a realistic valuation and just being fake paper/monopoly money

actual productive citizens would be classified via their genetic code (disease susceptibility etc) as to a basic base pay in Crbon Credits.... lifestyle & behaviors, productivity, resource consumption and other factors would define the addition or deduction of Carbon Credits to each individual...
a sub culture of black markets would barter in liquors, drugs, nicotine, social activities and all those things that would be detremental to one's life/health/well being/psychology/ or have a Butterfly Effect on the family &/or social sphere in the individuals home-neighborhood-local city-national demographics


but, a NWO...a central supercomputer would have to be the final word...the 'LawMaker' as it were


So the less your carbon footprint, the more credits you have, and the more "money" you have. How long can you hold your breath? Taxing a naturally occuring byproduct of a carbon based organism is not the answer to the world's problems... it will only cause more. For examples of this see California and Spain. The amount of CO2 humans produce is not significant enough to change our climate. There was far more CO2 in the atmosphere long before humans ever came to be.



posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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The government could do what the fed does and should at no expense to citizens. Wash the debt,case closed. Next crisis please.



posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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I kind of created a monster with this post.
Example: A bushel of grain (Includes all the types of grain the U.S. produces, averaged.) cost $3.33, that amount would be the value of the dollar and can go no lower than $3.33,(The value of the dollar.) but if the cost of a bushel rises so does the value of the dollar. Therefore its a win-win situation no mater what the price of grain, drought? Prices go up the dollar becomes stronger. Bumper crop? Prices go down and the dollar is still strong.
And yes of course I do agree on all U.S. commodities backing the dollar.
I also think if such a plan of action was put into place, other nations monetary systems would/could collapse.



posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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I don't really know how I can argue the points with you since you make a great confusion of it all, the terms and their meaning and implications.



Mainly because state socialism was a government where all citizens are essentially inducted into the military, which by definition contrasts directly with the ideals of communism where there is no government.


Communism does not mean no government, no government is anarchism

State socialism can be interpreted as central planing, to some point any government depends on central planing to survive. One reason why we never got a true implementation of capitalism was because of this duology of power and control. Capitalism is in its absolute implementation almost anarchic, it does however not mean anarchism because of its single minded ideology around capital.

Soviet Russia, would also not classify well as state socialism because it rarely worked toward the goals of a socialist state. It however implemented the state control of the means of production and an absolute centralization of planing but in direct contradiction to the communist ideology since it only favored the inner core and that promoted the cult of personality. It started with Lenin but was taken to a new level under Stalin and then Mao...

In any case we are taking the thread in a direction that has nothing to do with the subject. Take from this only that you have several facts wrong and other are very confused.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 03:42 AM
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Britain was first in adopting and violating the gold standard.





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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 03:50 AM
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Then what happens to the value of the currency in the event of a failed crop (ie serious drought)? The dollar would soar due to massive food inflation??
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 04:08 AM
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That would be a really bad idea.

Imagine the effect of a year of ruined crops by bad weather. Not only would people starve but the economy would collapse.

I would substitute it with energy......that we can control....



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posted on Aug, 24 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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That would mean the price per bushel of said grain would go up.

Sorry for the delayed response...heck I forgot about this post!
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posted on Aug, 24 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: laughingdog
a reply to: zedVSzardoz
That would mean the price per bushel of said grain would go up.

Sorry for the delayed response...heck I forgot about this post!

What you really have to fear would de a bumper crop!



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