posted on Aug, 25 2012 @ 04:11 PM
reply to post by TheNamesZeppelin
I don't really know how I can argue the points with you since you make a great confusion of it all, the terms and their meaning and implications.
Mainly because state socialism was a government where all citizens are essentially inducted into the military, which by definition contrasts directly
with the ideals of communism where there is no government.
Communism does not mean no government, no government is anarchism
State socialism can be interpreted as central planing, to some point any government depends on central planing to survive. One reason why we never got
a true implementation of capitalism was because of this duology of power and control. Capitalism is in its absolute implementation almost anarchic, it
does however not mean anarchism because of its single minded ideology around capital.
Soviet Russia, would also not classify well as state socialism because it rarely worked toward the goals of a socialist state. It however implemented
the state control of the means of production and an absolute centralization of planing but in direct contradiction to the communist ideology since it
only favored the inner core and that promoted the cult of personality. It started with Lenin but was taken to a new level under Stalin and then
In any case we are taking the thread in a direction that has nothing to do with the subject. Take from this only that you have several facts wrong and
other are very confused.