Originally posted by ecoparity
I propose we tax all 3rd World countries for all the Internet scams, credit card fraud, counterfeit goods, etc which originate 90+ percent from those
If I had my way, we'd take the top Internet fraud countries each year and lock them out of the Internet until their governments / police start
edit on 26-8-2012 by ecoparity because: (no reason given)
Seems a lot of these "truth-ey" sights have recently seen an uptick in the % of people who tend towards political tribalism that their sense of
reality (and what's real, actual fact) seems hopelessly warped. I'm sure there's several political trends that can account for this. I just get
tired of hearing "SOCIALISM !!! ", "OMGZ" "Obama=antichrist/foreigner/marxist/etc." (*head splode*) the hot air people manage to spew without
even having so much as one cell in their body planted in reality. What boggles my mind is how one manages to be so wrong while also sounding so
condescending, high and mighty.
I can understand this guy's train of thought sure, he got some credit card fraud malware of some sort from some nigerian prince and promptly
extrapolated that all these evil foreigners were out to pray on his money and take advantage of his virtuous hard work (I won't go on about the
numerous posts i see peppered with insinuations about 3rd world countries economic state being the fault of bad genes-'foreigners' lacking american
exceptionalism, lazy poor people, 'people in mud huts buying nikes' i.e. inability to prioritize/stupidity, etc. etc.) Obviously nothing
approximating the complex truth of poverty in the "3rd world", but rather something that seems more to be a reflection of an individual's own
prejudices, fears, and a good dose of MM brainwashing doesn't hurt. Let's take this person's proposal that 3rd world countries be taxed as he
believes that 90+ percent of cybercrimes, credit card fraud and counterfeiting originate from these countries.
35% of all malware, viruses, etc. originate from U.S. Of the top ten ALL are industrialized, large economy countries. [U.K., China, Japan,
Germany, Sweden, Russia, Italy, Spain, Switzerland]
Another article from forbes sites roughly the same number (U.S. at 35%, #1) with none of the other top ten countries being "3rd world"
An older report that nevertheless has a detailed breakdown of complaints of internet fraud in the U.S. It lists the crime by category,
including credit card fraud, check fraud, auction fraud, non-delivery, identity theft, "nigerian" letter fraud, etc. It has a break down on the
criminals: 77% of perpetrators were male, 66% of criminals were from the U.S. mostly residing in CA, NY, FL, TX, DC. Those from outside the U.S.
mostly came from U.K., Canada, Nigeria, China, South Africa. source
Stats for counterfeit goods were harder to find since so many go undetected. Most articles cite China as being the leader in production, a
NY times article
stated that 60% of items seized by the EU
originated from China (but again, China is NOT "3rd world"). Another website had a breakdown of the market for illicit goods, obviously this is
simple equation of supply/demand, the U.S. is just as much to blame for being the #1 consumer of counterfeit goods as China is for selling them to
Americans. Other major markets include Mexico, Japan, Germany, Canada, U.K..
So I know that may have been a bit long and somewhat off topic, but my general point is that all it takes is a little bit of common sense and research
so as not to look like a total loon with your head up your arse...And especially by all means people stop letting your prejudices dictate reality for
you (perception does not always = true). I thought finding the truth meant identifying how those biases influence your opinions/thoughts and learning
to make better judgements based on facts, research and one's own brain (as opposed to "ZOMG SOCIALISM" because Glen Beck et al. says so)...in this
example, it's only common sense that both market size, commerce and language would play a big part in cybercrimes and other such fraud, most people
in mud huts don't have computers or internet access, whereas most people in the english speaking countries where most of the monetary transactions
take place do.
On the same note, thank you "Merriman Weir" for pointing out numerous times the egregious misuse of the term "socialism", and the many