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Surprise of the Day: Iranian Ayatollah: Avoid war with Israel

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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:33 AM
Seems like not everybody in Iran is so eager to go to war like Ahmadinejad wants to make us think.

Amid the heated debate in Israel regarding the possibility of a solo attack on Iran and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's harsh statements against the Jewish state, Ayatollah Yousef Sanei, one of the leading interpreters of Muslim law in Iran, has urged the Islamic Republic not to fan the flames of war with Israel.

If I'm understanding right, is the Ayatollah who get to decide; right now they sound like a parent forced to intervene in a kids fight. That's a big surprise.

"We must all do our best to prevent the Zionist attacks on Iran, because if they happen, Iran will be hurt greatly, even though the Zionist regime will be hurt even more."
"We should not act, God forbid, as warmongers in our country and provoke a war. The nation is currently in a special condition, and the most important task is to shut the Zionist regime up with our thoughts, pen, and correct efforts and actions," he said.


Now if anybody can call Netaniahu' father to calm him down too, maybe we can get a break for some reasonable discussions.

On the other side, on Syria' side the temperature seems to constantly rise... but that's for another thread.
Your thoughts?
edit on 21-8-2012 by WhiteHat because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:53 AM
Some is gonna take him out just for saying that.


posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 06:07 AM
Gosh I really like that "shut [them] up with our thoughts" part! Way cool. Like to know more about that process.

posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 07:48 AM
reply to post by WhiteHat

Sorry, but the "Supreme Leader" is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

In fact, if you do some research on Ayatollah Yousef Sanei, you'll find that he was demoted in 2010 for publicly declaring Iran's government as being illegitimate.

Unfortunately, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is still spouting the same garbage as President Ahmadinejad.

posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 09:28 AM
reply to post by WhiteHat

If one Ayatollah is willing to speak out about this madness maybe others will follow. Sometimes all it takes is one person willing to put it all on the line for others to find their courage. I hope this starts a chain reaction.

posted on Aug, 23 2012 @ 09:29 AM
The people that matter in Iran are saying this..

Khamenei orders Qods Brigades to step up attacks on the West

The Daily Telegraph’s senior security commentator reported Wednesday that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had ordered Qassem Soleimani, the Qods Force commander, to activate Unit 400 (overseas operations) against “America, the Zionists, Britain, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar,” to show them Iran’s “red lines” for their support of the Syrian rebels’ bid to overthrow the Assad regime and tough sanctions against Iran. He issued the directive following a specially commissioned report which said Iran cannot be passive in the face of the new threats posed its national security or abandon Bashar Assad, the senior member of the “resistance alliance.
I know who is publishing it but "IF" it is true doesn't really surprise me any
edit on 23-8-2012 by paradiselost333 because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 04:13 PM
reply to post by WhiteHat

and it makes me think why you really think that Iran is after war !
they want to go war with Iran because it says Israel is spreading like a cancer tumor. and doing genocide against palestinians and demolishing their houses for greater Israel contrary to all international laws.
the same that they fought with those that said earth was not the center of the world.

Now I would like to give a benevolent piece of advice to American politicians who always stood up to defend and support the Zionist regime. So far, this regime has created countless problems for you. It has presented a hateful image of you to the regional peoples, and it has made you look like an accomplice in the crimes of the usurping Zionists. The material and moral costs borne by the American government and people on account of this are staggering, and if this continues, the costs might become even heavier in the future. Think about the Islamic Republic's proposal of a referendum and with a courageous decision, rescue yourselves from the current impossible situation. Undoubtedly, the people of the region and all free-thinkers across the world will welcome this

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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 05:09 AM
Check this :

The summary of this matter is that on the basis of a horrible Western plot and under the direction of England in the 1940s,
1- an independent country with a clear historical identity called “Palestine” has been taken away from its people through the use of weapons, killings and deception

2- and has been given to a group of people the majority of whom are immigrants from European countries.

3- This great usurpation – which at the outset was accompanied with massacres of defenseless people in towns and villages and their expulsion from their homes and homeland to bordering countries – has continued for more than six decades with similar crimes and continues to this very day. This is one of the most important issues of the human community.

Political and military leaders of the usurping Zionist regime have not avoided any crimes during this time:

from killing the people,

destroying their homes and farms

and arresting and torturing men and women and even their children,

to humiliating and insulting that nation and trying to destroy it

in order to digest it in the haraam-eating stomach of the Zionist regime,

to attacking their refugee camps in Palestine itself and in the neighboring countries where millions of refugees live. Such names as Sabra and Shatila, Qana and Deir Yasin have been etched in the history of our region with the blood of the oppressed Palestinian people.

Even now after 65 years the same kind of crimes marks the treatment of Palestinians remaining in the occupied territories by the ferocious Zionist wolves. They commit new crimes one after the other and create new crises for the region. Hardly a day passes without reports of murder, injury and arrests of the youth who stand up to defend their homeland and their honor and protest against the destruction of their farms and homes. The Zionist regime, which has carried out assassinations and caused conflicts and crimes for decades by waging disastrous wars, killing people, occupying Arab territories and organizing state terror in the region and in the world, labels the Palestinian people as “terrorists”, the people who have stood up to fight for their rights. And the media networks which belong to Zionism and many of the Western and mercenary media repeat this great lie in violation of ethical values and journalistic commitment, and the political leaders who claim to defend human rights have closed their eyes on all these crimes and support that criminal regime shamelessly and boldly and assume the role of their advocates.

Our standpoint is that Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and that continuing its occupation is a great and intolerable injustice and a major threat to global peace and security. All solutions suggested and followed up by the Westerners and their affiliates for “resolving the problem of Palestine” have been wrong and unsuccessful, and it will remain so in the future. We have put forth a just and entirely democratic solution.

Solution for Palestine

All the Palestinians – both the current citizens of Palestine and those who have been forced to immigrate to other countries but have preserved their Palestinian identity, including Muslims, Christians and Jews – should take part in a carefully supervised and confidence-building referendum and chose the political system of their country, and all the Palestinians who have suffered from years of exile should return to their country and take part in this referendum and then help draft a Constitution and hold elections. Peace will then be established.


That was true statement of Khamenei.

The garbage means that Some people want Israelis to take lands by force and by terrorizing people.

And I can not find any part saying Iran wants to kill Israeli people.

But what we see is that Israel is eventually killing Palestinian people.

This is what some arrogant people don't like. They are the dictators in disguise.

And this is a picture of facts :

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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 05:53 AM
reply to post by WhiteHat

The Old Guard Iranian Leadership is SCARED S#!%LESS! They are aware that the United States is the ONLY thing that stands between Israel Bombing their Nuclear Sites and how...if Iranian Rhetoric Increases now that they are close to if not there already of having produced enough Enriched Uranium to be used as Bomb Fuel and some 90 Year Old Religious ZEALOT orders the Iranian navy to Close the Strait of Hormuz...IT WILL BE THE END OF THE IRANIAN LEADERSHIP!

The United States will NOT ALLOW a Nuclear Armed Iran to dictate Terms on the Flow of OIL! The U.S. Will go ALL IN and will seize all Nuclear Sites as well as...with any luck...use the on going secret Military to Military Talks to allow Iranian Forces that desire to be able to STAND DOWN...the option of becoming the New Military of a Free Iran which would happen if the Pro-Democracy Movement had Military backing. Any Iranian Military Force that does not stand down...will still be given a second chance as just as in Iraq...U.S. Military Planners have selected an EXAMPLE TARGET. In Iraq it was a specific Republican Guard Division of approx. 100,000 Soldiers. A large Wing of B-52's using SMART MUNITIONS designed for CARPET BOMBING DESTROYED THE ENTIRE DIVISION IN ONE PASS! Other Republican Guard Divisions could hear or see from over Hundreds of Miles the Destructive Event and after word spread that this entire Division...picked because of their known rape and Carnage of people...NO LONGER EXISTED...NOT EVEN ONE SURVIVOR...the rest of Iraq's Military surrendered as troops took off their uniforms and walked home.

This would also happen in IRAN unless the Military does the SMART and RIGHT thing and stands down to become the new Military Protectors of a FREE DEMOCRATIC IRAN. If they attempt a Counter Attack on the Thousands of U.S. Special Forces and Airborne Rangers dropped in to seize all Nuclear far as Nuclear materials are concerned...the GLOVES WOULD COME OFF! The U.S. would leave NOTHING TO CHANCE and this Iranian Regime WILL is a Matter of Time and HOW? Hopefully their own people will do it and we will Trade them AID for their Nuclear Program. If NOT...this could become VERY MESSY and Iranian Casualties could reach ENORMOUS NUMBERS...TOO HIGH! This is why it is so important for Military to Military talks to work. No ONE has more to loose than the Iranian Military. I think they will come through as I doubt they will follow SUICIDAL ORDERS from a 90 Year Old Religious ZEALOT such as an order to Close the Strait of Hormuz. If the Iranian Navy attempted to do this them the U.S. Fifth Fleet would sink every ship, sub, dingy and destroy the entire Iranian Air Force.

It is more likely they will disobey SUICIDAL ORDERS and once this happens the Pro-Democracy Movement will take Control. Without the Military...the Old Guard only has their PAID THUGS which would be outnumbered by Iranian Youths. I HOPE THIS HAPPENS because a REAL WAR would cause too much death and destruction on the Iranian Side and it has been made very clear that any form of Nuclear Blackmail or Closing of the Worlds OIL Lifeline...will force the U.S. to attack very heavily. Split Infinity

posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 06:07 AM
reply to post by SplitInfinity

We both know, 100% that its ALWAYS the hardliners, in certain Country's, that believe rhetoric, will dictate the ends and means. In reality, those who are in Power, need to turn it down, and step to the plate of peace. Its what the people want, actually. Will it happen, is the million dollar question.

Thanks for the Post, Split.......

posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 06:32 AM

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by SplitInfinity

We both know, 100% that its ALWAYS the hardliners, in certain Country's, that believe rhetoric, will dictate the ends and means. In reality, those who are in Power, need to turn it down, and step to the plate of peace. Its what the people want, actually. Will it happen, is the million dollar question.

Thanks for the Post, Split.......

YES...THAT is the QUESTION! I think that the Old Guard will do just about anything to stay in power...we all better hope the Military to Military Talks work! Split Infinity

posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 07:11 AM
imagine if this was some sort of new cold war communication.
sending messages within messages hoping the otherside would interpret it correctly.

Didnt we yesterday have reports from the US that they didnt want to be seen as complicit with Iran?
Now we have this odd public announcement from Iran..


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