posted on Aug, 18 2012 @ 07:23 PM
I've been on ATS for years. And even though I rarely posted during my time here, I visited ATS almost every time I could. It used to be such a
terrific site during my first two years, influencing me and greatly assisting me in my search for the truth, and I owe its members a lot for that.
Now I'm not a westerner (even though I'll admit I'm largely influenced by Western civilization and you would find for example that I've hardly
read a book that isn't in English for years). I'm from Egypt, and I lived here most of the 22 years of my life. We will come to why I mention that
in a moment.
Anyway, in the past two years I've seen ATS fall into exactly what its members turn to it as an alternative to. The MSM. Intolerance and hatred.
Negativity and flaming. A bombardment of Propaganda and lies. I realize and appreciate that so many members of this site are aware of that and are
always doing their best to fight with it, but there are still many others who don't. We call the people who fall for MSM propaganda and lies sheeple,
but what is someone who, while not believing MSM, will believe anything that is written on the internet and then posted by any member of the website
he now accepts as the place where people are not sheeple. You know, well-informed, ignorance-denying, etc. And he does that without any research,
questioning or even using simple common sense?
As someone who has lived most of his life in a country with Muslim majority, I've always been especially astonished at the incredible amount of
anti-Islam lies and propaganda. Much like the Egyptian revolution, this is an area I have more real-life knowledge about than most people on ATS, so
it's always quite easy to spot lies on ATS about these specific topics. Now I'm actually not religious, haven't been for years. And I'll criticize
religious radicalism and general idiocy as quickly as the next guy on ATS will, and in fact do it all the time in real life with people I know. But
I'm also honest and hate nothing more than to see people mistaking lies for the truth by people intentionally or not misleading them with completely
made up stories.
I came to find those kind of threads incredibly dark and disturbing and full of hate and intolerance, on those some members made remarks that made me
shudder from how evil and violent they were. Comments that made the "I wish the middle east would be destroyed by a meteor or nuked out of existence
so that the world could live happy ever after" sort of comments that I heard earlier seem innocent. All that even though I share almost nothing with
the people around me and their culture and religion, other than the mere fact that I lived all my life among them including my family and most of my
friends. More than that what disturbed me is how I knew it was all lies and propaganda that people mistook for the truth.
I don't want to make this thread too long for people to read and I know that if I go on I'll make this a bit of a personal story (if I haven't
already. Not even sure if General Conspiracies is the right forum for it) and would go into a related big conspiracy of mine, so I won't. Instead I
will say what finally made me post a thread about it all.
It was a thread I just saw about the Muslim Brotherhood (whose candidate won the presidential elections a couple months ago) actually crucifying
people naked on trees! Now I'm one of a few millions of liberals in Egypt and we completely oppose the MB and all religious political parties and
consider them fascists in the guise of moralists, and would never support them. And thankfully as the results of the presidential elections showed,
most of the people in Egypt don't support them either, their candidate who won later got only 5.7 million vote from 25 million who voted, and the
only reason he won is cause he came up against a candidate who was basically a part of the old regime that the revolution removed from power in the
2nd round, which forced all people who believed in the revolution to either vote for the MB candidate or, like myself, abstain from voting. But
despite all that, really? You think they could crucify people naked on trees and nobody would know about it or see it except on some vague sites (the
one I checked being someone's personal site as the name clearly implies). Where do you think Egypt is? On another planet? Every man and his dog has a
mobile phone with a video camera. And you think it'd be ok for them to do such a thing when people are waiting for the president to complete his
first 100 days to see what he offers people before they start protests again, since we don't consider the revolution to be over yet? Where is common
sense? How more obvious could propaganda be? The only reason I'm now defending the MB is for the sake of the truth. I'd love to see them leave
power, but not by the use of lies. I actually dare say that, while still at the beginning of the road, there's more political freedom in Egypt after
the revolution (at least till now!) than there is in many western countries. At least people protest all the time now without fear of violence being
used by the police for the most part.
This now seems like a rant that has to do with religion, but it really doesn't. It's just one example of what I started this thread talking about. I
don't care about religion, but I do care about the truth, and hate to see lies, propaganda, hatred and intolerance being so common on this