posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 10:05 PM
Originally posted by ForkandSpoonI find it hard to believe there would not be such groups prepared in America, Japan, Australia and
pretty much every country....the newer socialist governments in Europe seem to have purged many already, but the fact that none seem to have come to
light in these other countries, makes one wonder if they are not still ongoing. Would love links and or reading suggestions on that. The examples I
gave were more secret armies and para-military but I'm interested in true underground idealogical societies too....like John Birch goes
underground.....any come to mind?
My background is in US Special Forces - stay behind operations are usually managed as a strategic asset when one side in a conflict knows its position
is untenable and future infiltration will be more risky than leaving agents or assets behind. Ideally, one would not want to use stay behind
operations unless likely future infiltration would be harder/more expensive than the coordination of the assets in the area.
Its technically not a "stay behind" operation by definition unless the asset is operating freely in a zone that you control then that area is
captured or occupied by the opposing force.
It is very risky in that they have to have the ability to communicate (which can compromise the operation via intercept) or prearranged signals
(easily misunderstood) for certain pre-planned actions (easily confused if the situation changes on the ground fluidly) which is not all that easy to
coordinate or manage. Often the operators in these situations would just report and take passive actions until some signal was received in advance of
a counter assault then they would have not so much specific targets but would operate in an area with the intent to harass and interdict enemy
movements and supplies. It is also often a last resort for a team completely unable to escape the occupied area - if the risk of capture/escape is
worse than loosing contact/control with the team. All our operators would have pre arranged exfill plans with multiple alternates that get more risky
as they go down the list. With stay behind as the last option in most cases.
In the case of the US, Australia and Japan etc. It would just be a sleeper cell or inactive espionage network. Infiltrated and integrated into
society their children might not even be aware of their allegiance then again they might be groomed to gain key positions in the government or media
for future operations. This is otherwise known as deep cover or a true covert operation as the "agent" is not so much an employee or Soldier since
they will have no way of being compensated other than their arranged cover. One has to completely assume a false life - the stress too much for
most and they become doubles very easily.
Most tactics and techniques for stay behind operations are the same as basic field craft or espionage work.
there is a place for conventional forces in "stay behind operations if the predicted loss of control of an area is expected to be brief.
I know I rambled on there the bottom line is these operations are very rare and risky. Any information on the OSS in WWII would give you insight into
these type missions. Operation Werewolf conducted by the Nazis after the Allies won the War in Europe is a great example of a true “stay-behind”
operation. I know this is wiki source but will get you started… en.wikipedia.org...
I would only opine that the most recent example of an effective operation of a similar nature would be the attacks on 9/11. The individuals were
infiltrated (or recruited after they came here under some other guise), trained and managed over a long period of time to accomplish a specific task.
Again, though not a stay behind” but a rather a covert operation with an infiltration with no exfiltration option other than death. Not something
in which a non-fanatic type person would participate.