Originally posted by binkman
Anyone who supports the union is NOT an English patriot, they are a Brit unionist.
You do not deserve to call yourself an English Patriot.
I disagree. I like the idea of small countries sharing a not very big island (or even set of islands) and banding together. I actually think it's
important as Britain is bigger than the sum of its parts.
At the same time, I'm rather fond of England. Don't get me wrong though, I loathe London-centricism and the fact that the English regions have been
historically shafted by a London elite. Geographically, what with living along the Pennines, as well as its associated weather, I've probably got
more in common with much of Scotland than I have with London or the South Coast.
That said, I do get tired of 'the English' being nonsensically blamed for everything and the anybody but English mentality is pretty pathetic and
makes no sense at all.
History of 'Britain'
Ice Age. Empty Britain falls under 'first dibs' laws as chancers from Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Germany and Denmark come over. Beakfolk &c.
later come over with nice pots.
The technology cult now known as celts arrive. Modern-day 'celts' ignore the fact that the place wasn't empty already and romanticise history
beyond all recognition until it resembles a cheap, American, fantasy paperback. Not all celts speak 'celtic', annoyingly for the 'celts': some are
likely to have 'German' accents.
Irish Scotti invade what's now Scotland. Acceptable because they're not English. The Irish and Scots are still trying to work out how to blame the
English at this point.
Romans subjugate 'celtic England' and create a Romano-Britain. Rather than being angry with the Romans, the Irish, Welsh and Scottish just forget a
'celtic England' ever existed, despite sharing language and culture &c.
Romans leave, celts and Romano-British can't run the place any more and return to ye olde tradition of killing your neighbours. The English would be
blamed for this but they're not here yet.
The infighting is now that bad on the main island that 'the English' are invited over in a United Nations 'blue beret' capacity. The English are
blamed for accepting the invitation.
Many Romano-British/celts aren't happy with these blonde interlopers. More infighting. Can't afford a wall like the Romans so Offa (King of
Birmingham and surrounding area) uses a lot of the pre-existing Roman boundaries to split off a Welsh-only Wales. English happy to be blamed for this,
even if it was probably a Roman idea (who weren't keen on Welsh either).
Norsemen come (and stay mainly in north England). Not that much of an issue as some of them are from the same place as 'the English' from a few
hundred years earlier. Some even get to be King of all England.
The Irish invaded by Norsemen, who found their biggest city, Irish not happy about it and get it together to kick them out and send them to empty bits
of England. A lot of Irish now love this (germanic) Viking connection. First probably use of 'anyone but the English').
This happens with Scotland too, and lots of 'celtic' areas are now populated by Norwegians and other athletic opportunists. 'Anyone but the
English' would be trending on Twitter at this point if it existed in manuscript form. Actually, not all Scots are happy about this to be fair. After
all, Scotland is meant to be for the Irish!
Normans invade England and Wales. Normans don't really like the English (or Welsh) and don't see themselves as English (or French). This doesn't
stop the 'English' being blamed for everything in British history afterwards.
First interventions in Northern Island? Done by Normans with Welsh/Cambrian forces. The 'English' get blamed.
After the House of Normandy ends, the House of Blois, takes over. Pro-tip: Blois isn't in England.
Ongoing Wars of Independence for Scotland against England. You know England, it's the bit down south full of English. Currently under French
ownership. The 'English' get blamed but the French owners don't understand as they despise the English so much most still can't be bothered to
speak English (unlike the Scots). The 'English' get blamed.
First round of plantations in Ireland? Done by a man with a Welsh family and some French money (Henry VIII, House of Tudor). The 'English' get
Second round of plantations in Ireland? Done by a the daughter of the man with a Welsh family (Elizabeth I, House of Tudor). The 'English' get
Enclosures happen and peasants are turfed off the land. But this happens in England by Welsh/French aristocracy but everyone forgets about this as
it's only bad when it happens to the Scots and Irish later on. If anyone remembered any of this the English would get blamed.
Ulster plantations? The Tudors turn out to a genetic cul-de-sac, so now Scottish Kings are keeping the 'English' throne warm at this point and many
of the beneficiaries of the scheme are Scottish. The 'English' get blamed.