People Just Don't Get It - A Plea as to why Catastrophe NEEDS to Happen

Following the quote "failed Olympic predictions" as people are calling it, there are just so many people going around here pointing fingers at people saying that they simply want these catastrophes to happen, that they yearn for destruction, doom, and gloom to occur at some point, and maybe, just maybe, for one of the so called "predictions" to be correct.

And then they are labeled as crazy. Lunatics. Pessimists. Then they go on the defensive. They deny such claims. They, of course, don't want doom and gloom, they are simply trying to be on top of things.

Truth is - they do want doom and gloom. They want chaos. They want destruction. Most of all, they WANT what this planet sorely NEEDS and too many people are unwilling to admit and make the sacrifice for... a massive RESET.

Because there is no fixing what it has become. Why? Because no one wants to fix it. No one wants to work to fix it, no one wants to get their hands dirty in the process. At least not enough people. This planet needs revolutions, it needs enlightenment, and it needs a restructuring of morals and ethics, but it isn't going to happen so long as things keep going as they have been. Without some kind of wrench being thrown in the gears, this planet is going to continue to die and humanity as a whole is going to continue the same path that it has been progressing on for centuries - towards its own moral and eventual physical extinction.

The idea that it will take a cataclysmic event to bring about change is dismal, but to those of us who have truly given it any thought, short of some kind of mass awakening on a spiritual level, it is the only thing that will ever truly awake people to act. The event of a mass power grid failure or a nuclear winter will be the only thing that will actually reverse the negative flow that recent modern technology has made on the psyches of people and it will allow society and humanity as a whole to start acting together again instead of as single institutions bent on furthering only themselves.

I have been told countless times that "living", at least in America, now consists of getting a job that pays well, regardless of whether you enjoy doing it or not, making enough money to go into debt on a home and a new car, getting a wife and some kids, and growing old, working that same job until you are 70 years old, and if you manage to live that life without going insane, you are able to to live the last graying years of your life, feeble and brittle while society, and you in reality, support yourself all the way to your death bed.

And apparently THIS reality is the American dream... and it is the BEST standard of living on this planet. Well I abandoned such a dream long ago and set my sights WAY higher. I said screw the systems. Screw money. Screw the family lifestyle mold that has been driven into each of us. Screw growing old and never actually getting to live. And since then I have been at odds with the rest of the world. Struggling to make them understand my choices yet they refuse. Deluded by their embedded beliefs of what "life" is, they refuse to let me live mine without trying to impose and force that way of life upon me... and the same goes for every other person who withes to actually LIVE instead of conform to a mold that this cookie cutter society that has provided for them straight out of the oven.



Humanity has become infected with a disease. People say to respect the beauty that this planet has to offer, and I can, for the natural beauty is splendid. And some of the works that people of the past have created is second to nothing in history. However, modern man has delved into a darker realm. A realm where art and beauty no longer exists. Where individualism is a dirty word. Where freedom takes a side road to conformity of society. Where safety prevails over independence. Where all men bow down to faceless leaders and accept systems without question, just because they are told that "That is the way things were, and that is the way things will be."

People have lost the ability to think and act for themselves. Society has become a groupthink mass of drones led on by reality television, cellphones, Twitter, and Facebook- fueled by celebrity gossip and aroused by the idea of embellishing themselves in others' drama and pain.

In other countries they engulf themselves in war, sometimes the same wars that have been going on for centuries. Sometimes wars caused by us. The Facebook masses don't care because they are too busy with their Hollywood and their faux political battles at home that they THINK that they have some kind of stake in... but they really don't. And in the end people complain bitterly all the time, to no end about how terrible things are and nobody ever EVER DOES A DAMN THING.

EVER.

COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN

AND

YOU

NEVER

DO

ANYTHING.




So.

I understand, as do others, that simpler than to convert the nonconvertible, more possible than to convince the unconvincable, and more easier than to preach to the unreachable... is to let nature... or the powers that be... take its course. Because in the end it will only help this world.

In whatever sick, screwed up scenario that you are anyone that feel that this current, modern society, where sex, texting, and social isolationism somehow represents the best of humanity... you don't even deserve an opinion - for you are brainwashed by your own self indulgences.

I'll admit openly. I yearn, I crave, I WANT there to be a catastrophe. I want their to be cataclysm. I need their to be some kind of chaos. It is the only way this world is going to change. It is the only way that people are going to open their minds.

It is the only way that this world is ever going to be worth living.

And as people who know me from my posts on here, I eagerly await December 21st, 2012. I do not draw sides or hold stake in what happens, but I hope that something does to change the perceptions of the world for the greater good, because than I, and all the others who know the truth of the situation will be able to smile for once at this corrupt rock that humanity has created.

But those who know me know this as well... that if that event does not happen on 12/21/12... then I plan to create my own event. Maybe I will go so far as to predict it myself on here, just so for one time I will be able to prove the naysayers wrong, that every once in while... the boy who cried wolf was doing it because there was actually a wolf approaching.

In the end, inevitably, something will happen, because it needs to. And all those people that "just don't get it"... maybe then they will finally understand.

reply to post by gwydionblack


There is a reason posters call it doom porn. And if Katrina, Fukishima, and Joplin haven't been enough to satiate them, then nothing will.

But since you are advocating for a destruction and catastrophe, are you going to volunteer to be first?

And if people want a house, a wife, and kids. That is their right. It is not you to decide for them,what they want and want to work for. It is none of your business.

Originally posted by gwydionblack
Following the quote "failed Olympic predictions" as people are calling it, there are just so many people going around here pointing fingers at people saying that they simply want these catastrophes to happen, that they yearn for destruction, doom, and gloom to occur at some point, and maybe, just maybe, for one of the so called "predictions" to be correct.

And then they are labeled as crazy. Lunatics. Pessimists. Then they go on the defensive. They deny such claims. They, of course, don't want doom and gloom, they are simply trying to be on top of things.

Well the fact is that many of these posters DO go from topic to topic, when one failed prediction comes up they bring on another.. they never predict wonderful things.. it's always planets smashing into us, comets obliterating us, dire earthquakes, false flags, terrorist attacks, alien invasions.. and the day comes.. and goes.. and they are onto another one... it's a clear, absolute, undeniable pattern.. and it's been going on here on ATS for many years.. I've lurked for over a decade before joining and saw it almost every single day ( if not every day ) .. so they tend to bring that image onto themselves in doing so ...

But ATS isn't to blame.. this has been part of mankind since the beginning.. failed doom and gloom prophecies have been going on for hundreds, if not thousands of years... I found a site that tried to build an index of all of them .. it went on for pages!

Do I think they are crazy or lunatics? .. not exactly, it would take a doctor to make such a diagnosis.. I'm no doctor... but some people are pre-dispositioned to believe in these tragic predictions.. it could just be paranoia .. an over active imagination.. or genuine mental illness in some cases... but you certainly see a lot of the same players in these posts...

The basic fact remains... they keep saying the end is near or something big is happening, they often give dates and details.. and it never happens.. so what would you call it? "The sky is falling!"

sounds like things haven't changed much at all over the last few thousand years

reply to post by nixie_nox

There is a reason posters call it doom porn. And if Katrina, Fukishima, and Joplin haven't been enough to satiate them, then nothing will.

Things like this are small hat my friend. Katrina was pretty big, I'll admit, and the events that spawned from it certainly led in a small, but correct, direction in awakening many people to the corruptness and inaction of their ineffective governments. Fukishima and Joplin was and is nothing in the grand scale of events in the modern era. If anything, Japan proved its efficiency as a society compared to the rest of the world after the entire event, while the rest of us looked on in awe and felt sorry, something we never even had to do.

When I talk catastrophe, I talk global. I talk solar flare, 2012 type stuff. Things that will turn all eyes. A catastrophe at the Olympics, while tragic, would have indeed been a GLOBAL event.

But since you are advocating for a destruction and catastrophe, are you going to volunteer to be first?

In a heartbeat. If I have to die to set the cause in motion, then I have been prepared to do so for many years now. It dying is something that will release me from spending the rest of my days on a perpetually screwed up world such as this, and there is no "fix", then you can bet that I will go down swinging, all the way to my eventual death.

And if people want a house, a wife, and kids. That is their right. It is not you to decide for them,what they want and want to work for. It is none of your business.

I'm not deciding what people want. What gets me is them trying to decide what is best for me - or anyone else for that matter, and society being accepting of such actions. I will never decide someones life for them, nor should they do the same for me. However, I can guarantee that if the perception of the world does change that there will be much better options for life out their then this illusion of grandeur that people have and consider the "American Dream".

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by gwydionblack

 

There is a reason posters call it doom porn. And if Katrina, Fukishima, and Joplin haven't been enough to satiate them, then nothing will.

But since you are advocating for a destruction and catastrophe, are you going to volunteer to be first?

And if people want a house, a wife, and kids. That is their right. It is not you to decide for them,what they want and want to work for. It is none of your business.

edit on 14-8-2012 by nixie_nox because: (no reason given)

It becomes my business when there is an OBVIOUS imbalance in this world. For decades now, people have been going "MINE" all over this globe, which, when you think about it (in an unbiased way), is complete and utter bullsh*t.

I live near a forest, yet when I go into said forest and pick a mushroom, I can and will be fined, because it is "private property" and I am essentially stealing.

WHAT? DID ANYONE PLANT THIS FOREST? IS THERE A NAME WRITTEN SOMEWHERE THAT I MISSED? NO. One person owns a piece of paper that says "this forest is his", while in reality, he doesn't own sh*t, he owns a piece of paper that some corrupt pieces of filth a very long time ago agreed upon that this alone would be enough proof to show that they own said piece of land. They do not, nobody does.

Then there is the issue of the west's blatant abuse, for decades, of countries we now blame for their own misery, while all the while continuing to steal from them. This has to end as well.


And what about people who own multiple properties? GREED. Nobody needs 5 houses, let alone 50. Is it really that fun to own 4 houses in which other people have to pay rent? Why do you agree with people basically enslaving others, just because they had the opportunity FIRST?

I can not buy a house, which is really great because now my options are;
A) Live in the streets
B) Pay rent every month, which, when added up, comes to about as much as paying off a house that I would own
C) Enslave myself voluntarily by getting a humongous loan, because cash doesn't get you anywhere anymore in the west

Yet, because others before me thought it would be a great idea to buy as many houses as possible, I can now no longer afford one, and am forced to pay such a great amount of rent, that if I COULD I would be better off just buying the goddamn house.


I don't wish destruction upon this world, I wish for a mass awakening, I wish every person on this planet would experience an ego death and would start realizing what the f*ck it is they are doing to their fellow man, and to this planet.

I'm f*cking sick of this garbage, we live in the west and think we have it better than the average African, while in reality, we are both prisoners in the same system, only difference is ours is fancier than theirs, and they get more free time

My dad returned from volunteer work in Africa a couple of days ago, the people there are not unhappy because they live in an "underdeveloped world", they are unhappy because essential progress is NOT being made (because of goddamn greed).

Why do you think so much money seemingly goes to third world countries, yet nothing ever changes? Because the people there don't want to be entrapped in the system we have here, they want the freedom that they currently still have, but with the benefits that we have. The corrupt corporations don't want to see that happening, imagine a free continent with the benefits of the west... What "they" want for Africa etc. is either the exact same system we have here, or nothing at all, and they choose the latter, because the population simply does not want the first option, living in a system that enslaves you from birth till death.

Originally posted by ThisIsNotReality

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by gwydionblack

 

There is a reason posters call it doom porn. And if Katrina, Fukishima, and Joplin haven't been enough to satiate them, then nothing will.

But since you are advocating for a destruction and catastrophe, are you going to volunteer to be first?

And if people want a house, a wife, and kids. That is their right. It is not you to decide for them,what they want and want to work for. It is none of your business.

edit on 14-8-2012 by nixie_nox because: (no reason given)

It becomes my business when there is an OBVIOUS imbalance in this world. For decades now, people have been going "MINE" all over this globe, which, when you think about it (in an unbiased way), is complete and utter bullsh*t.

When has the world been in balance in your life time? .. it sure hasn't been in mine.. and the last I checked when I looked at history books or studied various topics like the history of the middle east... I've not seen balance.. I've seen conflict, wars.. and people even in the 1930s holding up signs saying "The End Is Near" .....

We live in this narrow focus that history is only within the scope of our living life... it's not ... the world was a screwed up place before you were born.. for a long long time.. the last decade is no different, it's just a slice of history you happened to be alive to see.. Slip back to world war 2 .. or world war 1 .. or the civil war.. or the christian crusades.... or all of the battles during the roman empire... the list goes ON ... the world has never had balance except before the dawn of man.. and even then it wasn't balance.. it was animal against animal in the game of survival..

As for Greed.. it's always been that way... it goes back for thousands of years.. the Romans were a pretty greedy empire.. what about the Sultans in the middle east.. those royal families.. that sure isn't new.... kings and queens of europe .. there are so many examples of what you talk about going right back to the beginning of documented history, and surely beyond.

reply to post by ThisIsNotReality

I don't wish destruction upon this world, I wish for a mass awakening, I wish every person on this planet would experience an ego death and would start realizing what the f*ck it is they are doing to their fellow man, and to this planet.

Wishful thinking indeed! I think that is maybe the OP's point. Human selfishness and hypocracy has put this planet in a place where the only way to change humanities thought process, is a total reset. The governments and those running the show, damn sure are not going to have a change in heart and make all of their wrongs a right! The selfish people who love their gadgets and material things are not going to give them up......Not trying to put words into the OP's mouth, but that is exactly how I took his post...

And we can do better.

In fact -- it is our moral duty to "do better."

But first things first: lets start with a multi-state referendum on soft-money in politics. The right of the wealthiest 10% -- who own 80% of all the wealth of the world -- to write their own legislation, preventing competition against their own wealth and power must be destroyed.

Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by ThisIsNotReality

 

I don't wish destruction upon this world, I wish for a mass awakening, I wish every person on this planet would experience an ego death and would start realizing what the f*ck it is they are doing to their fellow man, and to this planet.

Wishful thinking indeed! I think that is maybe the OP's point. Human selfishness and hypocracy has put this planet in a place where the only way to change humanities thought process, is a total reset. The governments and those running the show, damn sure are not going to have a change in heart and make all of their wrongs a right! The selfish people who love their gadgets and material things are not going to give them up......Not trying to put words into the OP's mouth, but that is exactly how I took his post...

Well that's fine .. wishful thinking indeed.. but the post was also talking about all the doomsday predictions... If the wish is for humanity to have an ego death there's no need for people to be dreaming up deadly comets, false flag events or any other thing that just keeps on going .. it's a bit morbid isn't it? ..and what's worse is when you try to question them on it they usually attack back by CALLING you asleep, sheeple, disinfo agent, uninformed.. despite them, so far, almost always being wrong.... then we get angry posts like this... after the olympic predictions failed I've seen numerous ANGRY threads by those who supported it.

When I was a teenager I fantasized about how cool it would be if there was a huge disaster that only my friends (especially my girlfriend) and I survived. How much better it would be if all those other people weren't there.

Then I grew up.

reply to post by gwydionblack


I can sympathize with the yearning for change, but pining for catastrophes and the loss of human life...?

If you are that concerned, and willing to throw your life away in some disaster, why not devote the rest of your existence to advocating the change you want to see instead? Admittedly, it's a tall task when you consider the numbers, but it beats sitting around and propagating destruction surely? You never know. Probably won't influence everyone, but if the few you reach out to influence a few more and so on and so forth, change may eventually come to pass. Have hope.

And if all else fails, the inevitable will happen anyway as you've so kindly informed us.

reply to post by gwydionblack


I believe there is a part of humanity that wants to save mankind and heal this planet; I am hoping this will happen.

I like what Mahatma Gandhi had to say: "You must be the change you wish to see in the world."

reply to post by gwydionblack


I have to agree that something BIG needs to happen for things to change. It is always scary to bring things to a head, but it is only then that the rebuilding process can begin.

reply to post by gwydionblack

If there was a single issue or even multiple issues in one category we could create an action plan to deal with it, unfortunately we're too far gone for that. There is an overwhelming stench of evil and greed that surrounds everything we see nowadays, chasing green paper and lusting after what you don't really need is the status qua.
Only when we refuse to recognize the "assigned" value of useless tokens and begin to appreciate natural beauty around us will we find happiness.
Wrapping a gold Rolex around a Zebra's front leg does nothing to increase the value or enhance the beauty of the Zebra.

If it takes the death of million, thousands, hundreds... or even ONE. for me to have this wonderful life I dream of.. its not worth it to me.
But thats me. I wont buy into the deaths of others for my own benefit. Things will not be just peachy after a cataclysm and for one to think that wholesale death and destruction will bring about a renaissance is really skewed thinking. What it would be is the perfect storm for those in power to rule with iron fist. POwer doesnt all of a sudden fade with disasters. The disasters hit US.. the little people. The deaths are ours... the little people.

reply to post by gwydionblack


I think you should refrain from wanting, or causing a catastrophe, gwydionblack. A revolution can happen. I think the complexities involved in a revolution should be the topic of conversation all-the-time, and worth anyone's effort who is as frustrated as you are.

I very much think that voicing your frustration, like you did, is a key. If many millions of people keep voicing their frustrations, then I believe a general mood for revolution will be in the air like a charge of electricity.

Am I the only one here who's life isn't crap?

But sure, wish in your catastrophes, just don't expect me to thank you doom mongers when I'm being dragged into a cave by my hair by someone that just ate my children...Okie dokie?

You want your reality to be like this? Doomsday has already happened for billions of people in 3rd world countries. Please grow up and learn the harsh reality of wars and what happens after a societal collapse.

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by ThisIsNotReality

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by gwydionblack

 

There is a reason posters call it doom porn. And if Katrina, Fukishima, and Joplin haven't been enough to satiate them, then nothing will.

But since you are advocating for a destruction and catastrophe, are you going to volunteer to be first?

And if people want a house, a wife, and kids. That is their right. It is not you to decide for them,what they want and want to work for. It is none of your business.

edit on 14-8-2012 by nixie_nox because: (no reason given)

It becomes my business when there is an OBVIOUS imbalance in this world. For decades now, people have been going "MINE" all over this globe, which, when you think about it (in an unbiased way), is complete and utter bullsh*t.

When has the world been in balance in your life time? .. it sure hasn't been in mine.. and the last I checked when I looked at history books or studied various topics like the history of the middle east... I've not seen balance.. I've seen conflict, wars.. and people even in the 1930s holding up signs saying "The End Is Near" .....

We live in this narrow focus that history is only within the scope of our living life... it's not ... the world was a screwed up place before you were born.. for a long long time.. the last decade is no different, it's just a slice of history you happened to be alive to see.. Slip back to world war 2 .. or world war 1 .. or the civil war.. or the christian crusades.... or all of the battles during the roman empire... the list goes ON ... the world has never had balance except before the dawn of man.. and even then it wasn't balance.. it was animal against animal in the game of survival..

As for Greed.. it's always been that way... it goes back for thousands of years.. the Romans were a pretty greedy empire.. what about the Sultans in the middle east.. those royal families.. that sure isn't new.... kings and queens of europe .. there are so many examples of what you talk about going right back to the beginning of documented history, and surely beyond.

edit on 8/14/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)

What is evolution for amirite? The point being, is not that "it has always been like that", it's "it should at one point no longer be like that". We can have all the advancement we want, technologically, etc... But as long as people don't know how to live together and respect everyone, including this beautiful planet we were gifted, it won't make the slightest difference. What you sounds much like a self-fulfilling prophecy, it's always been like that, so yeah, why bother? I KNOW it has always been like that, but I no longer want it to be like that, and I no longer want to be part of it either. Women have been raped since the dawn of man too, does that to you mean that we should just accept this fact?

Well by that logic, why work on finding cures for disease? People have been dying of disease for as long as we can tell, maybe we should just accept that too...

Originally posted by Phage
When I was a teenager I fantasized about how cool it would be if there was a huge disaster that only my friends (especially my girlfriend) and I survived. How much better it would be if all those other people weren't there.

Then I grew up.

edit on 8/14/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Comments like this one, make me think otherwise