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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:31 AM
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Does Canada need a HOPE AND CHANGE campaign like what happened in the united states with Obama?
If so, why?
If not, why?




posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:39 AM
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reply to post by HamrHeed
 

what do u think?, no politicians give a sh*t about the people, only the agenda i don't see why others even believe in individual politicians anymore, its all a game, so was this question to spark a political debate that means nothing, or do u really believe are politicians can help based on there words and slogans?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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Why not answer the question yourself first?

Otherwise, how can there be a discussion for or against your OP?

So...yes or no?

Peace



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by HamrHeed
 

what do u think?, no politicians give a sh*t about the people, only the agenda i don't see why others even believe in individual politicians anymore, its all a game, so was this question to spark a political debate that means nothing, or do u really believe are politicians can help based on there words and slogans?


I believe they can help by yelling and convincing dummies to vote for thir demise!



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by jude11
Why not answer the question yourself first?

Otherwise, how can there be a discussion for or against your OP?

So...yes or no?

Peace


That makes no sense but whatever, I can see I might have angered you by mentioning obama.
I think canada would do much better with a real conservative in the driver seat. Obama is far from a leader I'd ever want in office.
But alot of shallow people would vote for him



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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so this was just to spark a political debate......that means nothing, or are u fishing for stars and flags, u new this op would spark discussion between Obama and anti Obama peps, as well as Canadians and Americans. it doesn't matter what politicians are here or there. they want us to believe we have a say, but in reality its a game played by the rich and powerful



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by HamrHeed

Originally posted by jude11
Why not answer the question yourself first?

Otherwise, how can there be a discussion for or against your OP?

So...yes or no?

Peace


That makes no sense but whatever, I can see I might have angered you by mentioning obama.
I think canada would do much better with a real conservative in the driver seat. Obama is far from a leader I'd ever want in office.
But alot of shallow people would vote for him


You're right.

Since I'm Canadian it makes no sense whatsoever. And being Canadian I can assure you that Canadians seem to be much more aware of what is happening in the US than many Americans.

We're also more angry, passionate, upset, disgusted etc at what is happening in America than most Americans seem to be.

The Glory days of America have passed. It's just that the US citizens don't know it yet.

America in my youth was something to look up to, strive for, emulate. Now, it's just shameful and not even a shadow of the rhetoric that still pours from so many posters claiming pride, humanitarianism, freedom and solidarity.

All gone.

Peace
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by HamrHeed
 


so this was just to spark a political debate......that means nothing, or are u fishing for stars and flags, u new this op would spark discussion between Obama and anti Obama peps, as well as Canadians and Americans. it doesn't matter what politicians are here or there. they want us to believe we have a say, but in reality its a game played by the rich and powerful


No, the so called left wing IS using the hope and change mantra and using other tactics that mimic the democrats in the american system.
Remember when harper was called bush jr? That is the official line. Conservatives are evil



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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reply to post by HamrHeed
 


eh,hows it goin
..can we hear your five cents worth first?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by HamrHeed

Originally posted by jude11
Why not answer the question yourself first?

Otherwise, how can there be a discussion for or against your OP?

So...yes or no?

Peace


That makes no sense but whatever, I can see I might have angered you by mentioning obama.
I think canada would do much better with a real conservative in the driver seat. Obama is far from a leader I'd ever want in office.
But alot of shallow people would vote for him


You're right.

Since I'm Canadian it makes no sense whatsoever. And being Canadian I can assure you that Canadians seem to be much more aware of what is happening in the US than many Americans.

We're also more angry, passionate, upset, disgusted etc at what is happening in America than most Americans seem to be.

The Glory days of America have passed. It's just that the US citizens don't know it yet.

America in my youth was something to look up to, strive for, emulate. Now, it's just shameful and not even a shadow of the rhetoric that still pours from so many posters claiming pride, humanitarianism, freedom and solidarity.

All gone.

Peace
edit on 11-8-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)


America isn't done though, They still have too many people that have heart and won't roll over and die. They need a kick in the ass and so do we along with europe



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:06 AM
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To new readers of this thread: WHO IS YOUR FAVOURITE CANADIAN OR FAVOURITE CANADIAN MOMENT+ WHY.



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by SarnholeOntarable
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eh,hows it goin
..can we hear your five cents worth first?



eh, i have four hai pennies in my pocket. might as well be canadian tire money now!


ps: ever heard of mint chip?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:11 AM
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look at u sitting on your high horse, u realize America is ran by anybody but the American people we just live here, just as u live in Canada. my vote, Ur vote, doesn't matter, its what they want, not what we want. and until everybody gets off there high horse, and joins with there fellow human, arm in arm, that is how it will always be.



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:11 AM
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FREEDOM.....to do anything.The hub of the world where people get along sometimes.
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:24 AM
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beautiful land
beautiful art
beautiful people
beautiful existence


beautiful stephanie dion

don don donnnnnnnn
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by jude11
 


look at u sitting on your high horse, u realize America is ran by anybody but the American people we just live here, just as u live in Canada. my vote, Ur vote, doesn't matter, its what they want, not what we want. and until everybody gets off there high horse, and joins with there fellow human, arm in arm, that is how it will always be.


It's very simple actually.

America has always prided itself on being the last and first bastion of freedom. Fight for rights, freedoms, the downtrodden and oppressed.

So...what happened?

C'mon, lead the way and the World will follow,

If not, stop the bravado. Rah-Rah BS.

Has it all been just false bravado? Looks like it because now America is no better than the rest and in many cases, worse.

Canada may not be perfect and we probably have a push coming to us but I can assure you that we still value our independence and will push back.

America in its arrogance has failed to stop the oncoming police state because "It could NEVER happen here".

Well...surprise!

Peace



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by SarnholeOntarable
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FREEDOM.....to do anything.The hub of the world where people get along sometimes.
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As a collective, we Canucking idiots are too nice for our own good. We need to jak up tariffs on maple syrup Thos bastards will PAY for our sugary water!



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by HamrHeed
Does Canada need a HOPE AND CHANGE campaign like what happened in the united states with Obama?
If so, why?
If not, why?


NO NO NO... ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! We're fine just the way we are. We're not drama queens like the states. We're not gonna blow up our CN Tower so we can turn the country into a police state. WE'RE NORMAL HELLO. We already have hope because we have all the oil. The only thing we need to change is not imitating the states so much.
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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I am a Canadian...that has been living abroad for the past ten years....I think politically it was the best time to leave....just before some Zionist *%$&tard took the reins and has tried to destroy the country.....quite successfully it seems....destroying the socialist packaging that actually makes Canada something the Canadian people could be proud of....Do people remember Trudeau still...the man who defiantly rowed to cuba in protest of Us sanctions.....I hated liberal policies...but he was a individual with some balls.

What i think Canada needs now is someone with some balls that will separate all policy decisions away from anything to do with the US.

Destroying any Affiliations with that Zionist Run nation would be a good thing in my eyes....So the time for HOPE and Change would be..I Hope Canada could get rid of it's Zionist infiltrations ...and the CHANGE would be to change any American affiliation....do the reverse....Guard all our Borders....set up protectionism for Canadian Banking and products....Make Americans feel like they make Canadians feel when they cross into our country....un-welcomed. I am not talking about the American people here..i am talking about the border agencies...they are ignorant rude people who have been so brainwashed by tptb that they have made America the cesspool it has become.



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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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C'mon, lead the way and the World will follow,


that is the ideal of a child who wants there friend to jump first off a high rock into a uncertain and possibly dangerous body of water, If Canada is as brave as u say, why not jump first. truth is neither will jump until they realize climbing down from that rock is more dangerous than jumping.



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