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Originally posted by Juggernog
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by Juggernog
Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by Juggernog
If you hit your head and you get a headache you better go to the doc. Certain brain injuries present themselves first as a headache.
So, the pounding waves gave him a concussion?
Yea, the ocean has enough force to do that.
um, i dont think so. maybe if you dive in from say 15 feet or so but not swimming in the surf.
Ive swam in the surf many times and in many sea conditions and not once have I gotten a concussion from the swells.
Oh well, forget it.
He still wasnt a hired lifeguard, so at this point hes just a citizen that did a good deed, maybe someone will step up and pay his bill but he shouldnt expect it just because.edit on 4-8-2012 by Juggernog because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Juggernog
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by Juggernog
Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by Juggernog
If you hit your head and you get a headache you better go to the doc. Certain brain injuries present themselves first as a headache.
So, the pounding waves gave him a concussion?
Yea, the ocean has enough force to do that.
um, i dont think so. maybe if you dive in from say 15 feet or so but not swimming in the surf.
Ive swam in the surf many times and in many sea conditions and not once have I gotten a concussion from the swells.
Oh well, forget it.
He still wasnt a hired lifeguard, so at this point hes just a citizen that did a good deed, maybe someone will step up and pay his bill but he shouldnt expect it just because.edit on 4-8-2012 by Juggernog because: (no reason given)
Excuse me, but you sir are an idiot. I'm assuming by that ridiculous comment you made you have never swam in the surf. I'd be surprised if you'd actually seen the ocean before from what you've been saying.
Originally posted by MDDoxs
No good deed goes unpunished.
I could see the total bill being deferred to another party...but who knows, i still have difficulty understanding US medical policy as i am sure a lot of people do. It always seems to change and be relatively fluid to make exceptions or in-turn make no exceptions.
With public attention, the hospital may "Good will" these charges to resolve the issue.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
Originally posted by MDDoxs
No good deed goes unpunished.
I could see the total bill being deferred to another party...but who knows, i still have difficulty understanding US medical policy as i am sure a lot of people do. It always seems to change and be relatively fluid to make exceptions or in-turn make no exceptions.
With public attention, the hospital may "Good will" these charges to resolve the issue.
I highly doubt it. These are institutions about making money. Most have board of directors and external investors. Unfortunately, more people will die as others cross thier arms and watch them (swimmers and such) go under.
It just disgusts me what this country is turning in to via the progressives.
We don't need ObamaCare; we need serious tort reform, and allowing insurance to be sold across state lines. Unfortunately, it would seem, the government (and I use that term loosely) could care less how many people die.
It's just disgusting as this case points out.
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Not sure why the 17-yr old hero should be maligned for complaining about a headache in this thread, after swimming out into some rough surf to rescue a drowning child -- give him the benefit of the doubt, okay? I imagine it was the EMT's who checked him over after the rescue when it was determined he had a headache and should go along in the ambulance to the hospital. Hardly his fault.
Since he was riding along in the ambulance with the drowning victim, did they split the cost of the ride? Would it normally be $3,800? Or did the hospital just charge both the standard fare and double it's profit?
Then there's the fact he was an off-duty lifeguard. Does the city/state not have an obligation to cover his medical insurance in the event he is injured in a rescue, even if he is off-duty? If an off-duty police officer pulls a victim out of a burning car and sustains an injury, the city or state will pay for it. Because the instant he came across the scene of an accident and he was in a position to do something to help, he became 'on-duty'. The city this lifeguard worked for trained him to be a lifeguard. They instilled in him a sense of duty to respond to drowning victims. On-duty or off-duty, the city or state he worked for should be obligated to cover his medical bills anytime he is involved in a rescue and get's injured. Even if it's a neighboring city, they can work out some cross-coverage.
Originally posted by Juggernog
reply to post by Blackmarketeer
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John Clark is a lifeguard at the Firstenburg Community Center pool and the Marshall Community Center in Vancouver. He's the youngest of nine kids; his family is trying to make arrangements to get the bill paid.
He wasnt a hired lifeguard at that beach, he is a lifeguard at the city pool. He jumped in on his own accord, yes it was a brave thing to do but it wasnt his job.
It says that he had a "headache", who takes an ambulance to the hospital for a headache?
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Yosemite Sam
I would still save another if I could. # the consequences. Just how I was raised. I have saved a few people, not from drowning, but from jumpings. I cannot watch another suffer or get hurt idly, damn the consequences.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by Yosemite Sam
As it stands now, my family was taken from me. I have no life savings. Even if that wasn't the case, I am not sure I could live with myself if I saw someone in trouble, and just stood there and watched. It's all messed up.
Originally posted by remieB
Pretty great news! It would be an incentive or award for them.