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Originally posted by charles1952
I like Rasmussen because they poll likely voters, not all adults or registered voters. This method seems to work and they have a good track record. From the Rasmussen web site:
Our firm has been a pioneer in the use of automated telephone polling techniques, but many other firms still utilize their own operator-assisted technology (see methodology). Pollsters for Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have cited our "unchallenged record for both integrity and accuracy." During Election 2008, Rasmussen Reports projected that Barack Obama would defeat John McCain by a 52% to 46% margin. Obama was 53% to 46%. In 2004, Rasmussen Reports was the only firm to project the vote totals for both candidates within half a percentage point.
Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 500 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
National polls are becoming less and less useful as the election gets closer and closer.
Time to start looking at the electoral college map and the polling for individual states.
There is a reason the OP is not wanting to do that though...it paints a very very bad picture for Romney at this point.
For example...the latest polling out of Florida has Obama at a +6, the RCP average has him +1.4 over Romney. In Ohio, the latest poll has Obama at +8 and +6, an RCP average of +4.8. RCP has marked Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota as leaning Obama. Romney has a very very difficult path with the electoral college map.
National polling is almost always going to be tight...but the information outside of the primaries is useless. This thread is just an attempt to try to promote Romney in a positive light...because he has been killing himself on his overseas trip.
Originally posted by charles1952
Yes, they weight their results, so does every other pollster. They all weight for age, sex, party affiliation, and who knows what else. That's required for a good sample, it's not a problem.
And no, Rasmussen does not make the majority of it's sample Republican.
Originally posted by charles1952
When you say that they have an excessive number of Republicans in their sample, more than any other pollster, you must have some idea of what per centage of their sample is Republican. Would you tell me what it is?
Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. While partisan affiliation is generally quite stable over time, there are a fair number of people who waver between allegiance to a particular party or independent status. Our baseline targets are established based upon separate survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews) and targets are updated monthly. Currently, the baseline targets for the adult population are 35.7% Republicans, 33.4% Democrats, and 30.8% unaffiliated. Likely voter samples typically show a slightly larger advantage for the Republicans.
Even having a likely voter sample that is R+3 is a stretch, given that there has not been a presidential election in the last two decades where the electorate (as measured by the exit poll data) has skewed three points in favor of the GOP. Indeed, over the last three cycles, the average has been roughly D+4.
Given those two bits of detail, it is rather shocking that Barack Obama ever leads in their national tracking poll. Furthermore, it dings the credibility of those numbers
Originally posted by charles1952
Would you believe it? Some pollsters overweight the Democrats!
With respect,
Charles1952
Originally posted by Indigo5
Expect the race to get crazy ugly....race baiting...smears...birther remix.. as desperation sets in on the right.
Originally posted by PvtHudson
It wouldn't even be close if Obama didn't have the entire MSM (minus Fox) constantly deflecting and defending him, while always attacking and discrediting his critics.
Originally posted by thepresident
Rasmussen always polls in favor of Romney or which ever GOP candidate there is,
it is built into their model. They did the same in 2008 with Mccain
A third of Americans favor a ban on all television political advertising. Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, says the data “suggests many Americans view political campaigns and political advertising as a form of civic pollution.”
Originally posted by thepresident
The Real Clear Politics average is what you should look at because it averages
many polls.
www.realclearpolitics.com...
Obama is currently +2 when you average 8 polls including Ras
Originally posted by whywhynot
Originally posted by thepresident
Rasmussen always polls in favor of Romney or which ever GOP candidate there is,
it is built into their model. They did the same in 2008 with Mccain
You are incorrect. Rasmussen called 2008 correctly. You may wish to review this.
Originally posted by LifeInDeath
Rasmussen is not a reliable poll. They heavily weight their numbers towards Republican candidates. They are reliable in that whatever numbers they show (until the very last week of polling before an election) tended to be weighted by about 5% towards the Republican. I've been following them and all the polls for years (since the 2000 elections really) and they are always, consistently, in every poll an outlier by about that much. So subtract 5% from the Republican number and you will have a better approximation of what the polling really is.
Originally posted by seagull
the only polls that matter are the ones in the first week of November. All others are essentially meaningless.
Make up your own minds. Decide for yourselves, don't let some silly pollster make you shy away. A poll in July/August is, or should be anyway, meaningless.
Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by Eurisko2012
I don't trust any polls.
Speaking from experience, people have been known to lie to pollsters... The couple of times during the '08 elections that I got phone polled I gave two differing answers, and voted for neither of 'em. If I'm any example...I'd not trust a poll as far as I could throw the pollster.
But, if you tied me down and tickled my toes, and pointed a water pistol at my head (unloaded of course...), I'd say Rasmussen is a bit more reliable than the Times... For what that's worth.