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Originally posted by Darkmoor
Odium,
I have to give you high praise for the survival information you showed everyone. If you can do all of that you really are one hardcore dude. I would love to have you fighting along side of me. Too bad you live in England. They banned all the guns over there but you still have access to them. Good thinking. I still think it's going to be harder for you to survive because largely most of your population in England are sitting ducks without weapons. You are a very big exception and I hope there are more of you over there. Here in America we at least still have time to mobilize and train with others and purchase weapons. Although, it's a pain in the arse. And it's only a very few that know. And maybe more that do know but do absolutely nothing about it. They just hope the problem will go away and not prepare for the takeover. Sitting and waiting is not preparing, people.
Say were you ever in the SAS, SBS, or Para? That'd be the equivalent of America's SF, the PJ's, and HALO jumpers. If not then you should have been. Although I understand how you feel if you decided not to go in because you'd be helping the government and all. I feel wary about that myself even now. Paranoid is more like it. I still have a mission to complete, however, and my paranoia can wait until I can save some American lives.
BTW, you've got my vote.
Originally posted by Odium
I'm actually not Army, but come from a military background both my grandfathers fighting in WW2 (Russia and Britain) and one of them in Korea after.
As for the Army, I'm tempted to. I actually wish to go into politics, so I plan on getting a degree (law) and after that I plan on joining the RAF Gunners and hopefully I'll get into the SAS. Although I'm not overly sure. I was going to join the Army at 16, but when I was 15 I encountered medical problems and ended up ruining my right leg. Which I've only recently got back up to the point where I can run for several hours.
As for people, well America does have a better chance I'll give them that. As does Russia, etc. I actually plan on moving to Russia, if I can't do well as a politicion, but at the moment I'm waiting for my other-half to move back to England. (As she's in America, till we sort everything out.) But, I do think any group of people can win armed or not. It would be possible, if they knew how and built a small scale base. Traps can ruin an invading Army and in reality, if this was to happen it would only be at most 20 people. Which a smart group could take out with bows. Although it would be very hard.
Originally posted by Odium
Well I don't see it as the Militia being some fighting force against the N.W.O. but more a thorn in their side. It would be impossible for the N.W.O. to exist in every nation, so they'll probably have to go to war and take over these other nations.
Originally posted by BabylontheGreat
First sign of any NWO takeover and I'm heading straight to the UP of Michigan(I reside in a suburb of Detroit)with my family to our cabin, where there's only a handful of residences within multiple miles of eachother.
GrandMasterN
For those of living in large urban areas in which there are many small wooded areas without vast tracks of unknown wilderness in which to hide. What means would provide the safest route to more rural areas ie. seclusion/safety? Railroad tracks? Highways? Through rough Wilderness? Other?
Originally posted by GrandMasterN
For those of living in large urban areas in which there are many small wooded areas without vast tracks of unknown wilderness in which to hide. What means would provide the safest route to more rural areas ie. seclusion/safety? Railroad tracks? Highways? Through rough Wilderness? Other?
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Odium
I have a question for you, if you don't mind. How many survivalists are out there where you live? Do you meet up with a few trustworthy buddies or are you pretty much a lone wolf? I was just curious because you would do very well leading your own militia.
Originally posted by Odium
I have one member of the T.A. who left it, one ex-SAS officer, my girlfriend who just humours me but it gives me someone to go on 2hr runs with, two good friends. So 6 of us.
I pretty much do it Lone Wolf style, but those lot come on training and exercises as well as sparring with one another. It's always good to keep in shape with other people, although only two of them fully agree with what I think will happen. The others are rather skeptical, which is fair enough.
I plan on working out a way to recruit more people, during 2007 and start showing the general public how to survive once I know everything. This summer, I'm actually going to N.C. for two weeks, going to rough it for 6days on nothing more then I can carry and without weapons in bear infested foreasts.
So, if I come back from that, I then will focus on setting up my own group. I need to test myself enough first though.
What bout yourself? Do you?
Originally posted by Darkmoor
You have a pretty decent crew. Those few who were ex-military will be able to hack the actual surviving part unless they weren't trained very well. The rest just need to stay in shape and learn from you. You guys should be alright. You said you are considering moving to Russia? Correct me if i'm mistaken. Have you thought about moving to the U.S? If you were to move here whereabouts would you go? I actually LIVE in north carolina. When I saw that you were coming here I laughed. I actually would like to go along with you guys. But, I'm shipping out to Basic sometime in the summer. Going to Texas for at least 3 months then I'll go to Tech School in Mississippi or Goodfellow, TX. Most of my jobs have tech training at Keesler AB.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
After I graduate from that they'll send me to my first active duty station. I'm pulling for Japan. Just to enjoy life while I still can, you know? There is a low chance i'll come back to carolina since there are so many other bases abroad. I am picking mostly rural areas just in case things go awry. North Dakota and South are some of my top choices in CONUS. Do you live near any of the RAF bases in England? I know they have Lakenheath and Mildenhall maybe some other small ones as well.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
That's a really good idea you have about teaching the public about survival techniques. It's not like you'd be out in the street proclaiming the end of the world. You'd be showing folks how to survive in case of an emergency. Which there is one pending. It is going to come in handy soon enough and the more people you teach the better.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
I actually don't have any CLOSE friends that I talk to about all this on a daily basis. None of them would believe me. They are too wrapped in their superficial lifestyles. I do have an uncle and we communicate about this maybe once a week because he lives about an hour away. Most of his friends are connected to the cause. Many of them have already disappeared. He doesn't know if they are alive or dead.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
I live in central north carolina. Where would you be going? The Apalachian
mountains are to the west of my area. Maybe 4 hours drive.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
As far as me being in a militia i'm not in one yet but i'm a eager recruit. I have to do 4 years in the service first to get my feet off the ground but after that i'll consider leaving and settling down in an area where I have people I can trust.
No, you were right. I have thought about moving to Russia once I get my degree (International Law). The reason I thought of Russia was due to the location, gun laws and I personnally think if the N.W.O. does take over it'll be in the E.U. member Countries, U.S.A and Canada first, before anywhere else. Giving me a better chance of surviving, but also with Russia and the size of it, I can vanish very easily and go to a lot of Countries from it.
I'm tempted to move to the U.S.A. but, I think I can lead a better life while it's "free" in Europe then I could in America.
But, if I was going to move somewhere I'd say in the South. When the hits the fan, you could get to Mexico, then through to South America. I doubt that'd become part of the N.W.O. straight away and from there you can get a boat to Europe, Russia or China. If you have the money/currency saved up.
I live right in the Centre of England, so it's fairly easy to get to most RAF bases, give or take 4hours. I live near to Croyton(Can't spell it to save my life) which is rented to the USAF and is a listening post. I go up there fairly often as I used to work at the bowling alley and they still let me on.
Also, I used to know a member of the USMC who was in Japan, he said it was amazing to be stationed there. Good learning experience.
Well yeah, I already teach an amateur Wrestling group, who just started up, grappling, lifting, etc. But what I plan to do is do a mix of Survival Techniques, Krav Maga and a mixture of alternative healing. So, if something does happen in the near future (which I think it will) they might have some chance of surviving.
It's very awkward to find people who have the same views as anyone, yet alone when it's on such a topic. Give it a couple more years and I think people will begin to wake up and see the light. So to speak.
Going to stay 1 night in Lenoir, my girl owns a place there and from that we're just going to head off. In whichever direction we fancy and vanish for 7 days, with only what we can carry.
Yeah, after you've been in the Military it'll also be easy for you to setup your own one or join another. Especially if you see active service. You have some real knowledge, which a lot of survivalists do not.
Originally posted by Odium
No, you were right. I have thought about moving to Russia once I get my degree (International Law). The reason I thought of Russia was due to the location, gun laws and I personnally think if the N.W.O. does take over it'll be in the E.U. member Countries, U.S.A and Canada first, before anywhere else. Giving me a better chance of surviving, but also with Russia and the size of it, I can vanish very easily and go to a lot of Countries from it.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
You have thought this out pretty well. In America, as of now, we can keep our guns but there will come a time when they’ll bust through our doors to take them away. Right now they are trying to ban as many of them as well as bans on assault weapons. Because they fear us. They fear those kinds of weapons in the hands of the mass. I can’t blame them. If we were to unite, although it won’t happen, we would give them a run for their money, for sure. The reason I say it won’t happen is because I’m a firm believer in the Bible and the Revelations. It says many will be deceived so I “assume” this will mean that the majority will be forced into submission because of their ignorance/cowardice or inability to do anything. The Bible says that many will be deceived when the antichrist comes and preaches peace. He will come once the World Order is in place since he will be at its head. So since the majority will be deceived then that would mean the majority didn’t unite. This is just logical thinking on the part of the prophecy scripture.
Originally posted by Odium
I'm tempted to move to the U.S.A. but, I think I can lead a better life while it's "free" in Europe then I could in America.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
You may be right. I’m ignorant to the ways of life in Europe, to be honest. I used to be one of the invisibly shackled zombies you see walking through the halls in school. I’m only ignorant because I’ve never visited. Even though the thought of fleeing when the takeover happens appeals to me. I just feel like I have an obligation to help save people here. I’d be prepared to die here. This is where I was born and where I will stay.
Originally posted by Odium
But, if I was going to move somewhere I'd say in the South. When the hits the fan, you could get to Mexico, then through to South America. I doubt that'd become part of the N.W.O. straight away and from there you can get a boat to Europe, Russia or China. If you have the money/currency saved up.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
My ex girlfriend who is a very close friend of mine has a boyfriend in England. She is thinking of moving there because she fears the World Order. I give her a hard time about moving there sometimes because even though we’re broke up we have a strong bond. I just want to make sure she is safe. Her bf has cancer and if he dies she’ll be alone up there. I told her that if she does decide to move to England she needs to find people she can trust. Anyway she’d be interested in going to Russia and all that with you. She’d probably like that better then living in a hole in the ground out in the wilderness with the militia. Although I will take into consideration the escape plan you suggest because it sounds like a great idea, I just feel an obligation to stay here. I don’t know why. My ex has offered to let me come along but I keep telling her it’s more important that I stay here.
Originally posted by Odium
I live right in the Centre of England, so it's fairly easy to get to most RAF bases, give or take 4hours. I live near to Croyton(Can't spell it to save my life) which is rented to the USAF and is a listening post. I go up there fairly often as I used to work at the bowling alley and they still let me on.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Croughton, I believe is the spelling. I’ve heard of it, yes. Off topic: How much is gas in England? And have they implemented RFID’s in the Superstores yet? They’ve already done it here to some extent but this is just the beginning. It will be commonplace, like the barcode, SOON. Wal-Mart is the juggernaut leading the RFID charge. Claiming it’ll make it easier to “stop criminals and know when to stock depleted inventories.” I could look this up but I find it easier to ask you.
Originally posted by Odium
Also, I used to know a member of the USMC who was in Japan, he said it was amazing to be stationed there. Good learning experience.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Oh definitely. It’s very beautiful. I’d like to just relax and be at peace for ONE year of my life before this all happens. I’d at least like to TDY there. It doesn’t have to be a permanent assignment. I’ve heard from other Airmen that the easiest way off a crap base is volunteering for Korea. I may do that. It’s not Japan but it’d be interesting to visit the DMZ.
Originally posted by Odium
Well yeah, I already teach an amateur Wrestling group, who just started up, grappling, lifting, etc. But what I plan to do is do a mix of Survival Techniques, Krav Maga and a mixture of alternative healing. So, if something does happen in the near future (which I think it will) they might have some chance of surviving.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Really? Do you know the name, Matt Furey? I use a lot of his exercises. Handstand pushups, Hindu Pushups mostly.
Originally posted by Odium
It's very awkward to find people who have the same views as anyone, yet alone when it's on such a topic. Give it a couple more years and I think people will begin to wake up and see the light. So to speak.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Yeah, it is one of the most awkward things to approach someone and say “hey, you know we’re going to be taken over soon?” Sometimes I throw tidbits here and there to strangers. I ask them “have you ever though about joining the military?” and they say “no”. And I’ll say “well get used to it, you’ll be drafted soon.” They just look at me. Other times I throw useful stuff out there and explain to people about the RFID’s and how they’re implementing them. It’s like the FBI or CIA just planting bugs in your house, it’s the same thing with RFID’s on all products. How can you trust the stores to remove them when you leave the store? You can’t. Absolute power corrupts Absolutely. I talked to a fellow Christian today about the Order that is coming and he pretty much told me. “Yeah I believe in it. But you can’t worry about it or your life will pass by.” I pretty much looked at him and thought. “you won’t have a life to worry about if you do nothing.” It’s better to be prepared and totally wrong then unprepared and DEAD.
Originally posted by Odium
Going to stay 1 night in Lenoir, my girl owns a place there and from that we're just going to head off. In whichever direction we fancy and vanish for 7 days, with only what we can carry.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Lenoir, good deal. You’re not too far away from Asheboro. From there you can head west or you can explore south. There is a good-sized forest south of Morganton. Maybe 30 minutes or less from Lenoir. Anyway, Good Luck!
Originally posted by Odium
Yeah, after you've been in the Military it'll also be easy for you to setup your own one or join another. Especially if you see active service. You have some real knowledge, which a lot of survivalists do not.
Originally posted by Darkmoor
Either that or I’ll be killed as a martyr for talking to the wrong person about a militia. Ha-ha...well...I’ll think on the Brightside. The militia will be the enemy of the state soon enough unfortunately. I appreciate the comment about having knowledge. I’m still very much in the learning process. I spend most of my time locked indoors staring at the computer screen gathering information. Since I found out about all of this I haven’t talked to any of my friends except for when I get to school. I’m going to graduate in June. My ex gf who is really my best friend keeps telling me to try and have fun every once in awhile. It’s hard to have fun when there is a war coming, you know? Fun is for other people. I feel an obligation and I am going to learn everything I can before this happens. There is nothing I can do to prevent it but I can at least know all I can so I can inform others.
hotwiring vehicles, picking locks....lots of abandoned vehicles and vacant homes in the post crash, possibly to hide out in. Getting to the woods or the mountains will not be accomplshed in one or two days, even in the best of circumstances. Look to using sewer systems, and water drainage areas. Travel only at night until you are out of the cities and suburbs.
Barterable items: smokes, gold, drugs (legal and illegal), alcohol, antibiotics, ammo (already mentioned.)
Don't take any seeds with you, you wont have time, or the water to grow them, and any open areas will be highly visible or patrolled.
Have magazines pre-loaded at all times and easily accessable.