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New Obama 'Damage Control' ad does more Damage ?

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posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
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The idea is still that government is responsible for all these great things. I'm sorry, that is untrue. Last I checked my tax dollars go to pay for roads. My tax dollars go to pay for education. My tax dollars build bridges. Yes, I DID build that.


Ummm no...WE built that...you did not pay for that bridge...WE did.

You, I and everybody else PAID FOR THAT..It took a government to build it. What is a government??? The pooling of money and resources to do the things we can not do as individuals. Defense, Inrastructure, research.....And thanks for confirming my point...
edit on 26-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


The government works for us.

Our US taxpayers pay for their salaries. Those are our roads and bridges.



Right...thanks for agreeing...the post I responded to said "I built that"...I said no "We built that" and that is what Obama said.

Government is a pooling of citizen resources to do jobs that they can not afford or do by themselves as indivduals...Defense..Infrastructure..etc.

Does being far-right require you to pretend stupidity?




posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by Indigo5
 


The idea is still that government is responsible for all these great things. I'm sorry, that is untrue. Last I checked my tax dollars go to pay for roads. My tax dollars go to pay for education. My tax dollars build bridges. Yes, I DID build that.


Ummm no...WE built that...you did not pay for that bridge...WE did.

You, I and everybody else PAID FOR THAT..It took a government to build it. What is a government??? The pooling of money and resources to do the things we can not do as individuals. Defense, Inrastructure, research.....And thanks for confirming my point...
edit on 26-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


The government works for us.

Our US taxpayers pay for their salaries. Those are our roads and bridges.



Right...thanks for agreeing...the post I responded to said "I built that"...I said no "We built that" and that is what Obama said.

Government is a pooling of citizen resources to do jobs that they can not afford or do by themselves as indivduals...Defense..Infrastructure..etc.

Does being far-right require you to pretend stupidity?


No, the point Obama is making is that we are reliant on Government, that Government is providing these goods and services. It's a blatant lie, I provide it with my tax dollars, I pay for what I use, just like you do. I don't need Obama's handouts to live, because his handouts come out of my bank account.



posted on Jul, 26 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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He doesn't need to do damage control because rational people understand what he was saying even taken out of context. The only people any damage control ad could hope to reach are people like you and honestly reaching the willfully braindead is more effort than it is worth.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by Indigo5
 


The idea is still that government is responsible for all these great things. I'm sorry, that is untrue. Last I checked my tax dollars go to pay for roads. My tax dollars go to pay for education. My tax dollars build bridges. Yes, I DID build that.


Ummm no...WE built that...you did not pay for that bridge...WE did.

You, I and everybody else PAID FOR THAT..It took a government to build it. What is a government??? The pooling of money and resources to do the things we can not do as individuals. Defense, Inrastructure, research.....And thanks for confirming my point...
edit on 26-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


The government works for us.

Our US taxpayers pay for their salaries. Those are our roads and bridges.



Right...thanks for agreeing...the post I responded to said "I built that"...I said no "We built that" and that is what Obama said.

Government is a pooling of citizen resources to do jobs that they can not afford or do by themselves as indivduals...Defense..Infrastructure..etc.

Does being far-right require you to pretend stupidity?


No, the point Obama is making is that we are reliant on Government, that Government is providing these goods and services. It's a blatant lie, I provide it with my tax dollars, I pay for what I use, just like you do. I don't need Obama's handouts to live, because his handouts come out of my bank account.


Bingo! That is correct. As usual Indigo5 has everything upside down and backwards.


Obama sees the err of his ways and is trying to correct it.

Parroting Elisabeth Warren was the end of Obama presidential campaign.



edit on 27-7-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
He doesn't need to do damage control because rational people understand what he was saying even taken out of context. The only people any damage control ad could hope to reach are people like you and honestly reaching the willfully braindead is more effort than it is worth.


Charles Krauthammer said the out-of-context excuse won't work.


When you listen to the whole speech it sounds even worse!


First Obama mocks the capitalists, then he attacks the capitalists.

During an election year it's usually a bad idea to throw out - Socialist Rants -

at the American people. It always backfires.


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- Obama is doomed -



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The GOP put out a full minute ad.

The more context you get, the worse it sounds.

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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by Indigo5
 


The idea is still that government is responsible for all these great things. I'm sorry, that is untrue. Last I checked my tax dollars go to pay for roads. My tax dollars go to pay for education. My tax dollars build bridges. Yes, I DID build that.


Ummm no...WE built that...you did not pay for that bridge...WE did.

You, I and everybody else PAID FOR THAT..It took a government to build it. What is a government??? The pooling of money and resources to do the things we can not do as individuals. Defense, Inrastructure, research.....And thanks for confirming my point...
edit on 26-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


The government works for us.

Our US taxpayers pay for their salaries. Those are our roads and bridges.



Right...thanks for agreeing...the post I responded to said "I built that"...I said no "We built that" and that is what Obama said.

Government is a pooling of citizen resources to do jobs that they can not afford or do by themselves as indivduals...Defense..Infrastructure..etc.

Does being far-right require you to pretend stupidity?


No, the point Obama is making is that we are reliant on Government, that Government is providing these goods and services. It's a blatant lie, I provide it with my tax dollars, I pay for what I use, just like you do.


Still not getting it. Government IS OUR tax dollars...WE hire and employ government...and Pres. Obama stated exactly what his point was immediately after that out of context qoute was contorted and molested to mean something different..


The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.


To keep pretending he meant something else is a lie...you are entitled to an opinion, but honest men subjagate opinion to facts, not ignore them. Flat earth..Pres. Obama clearly stated "what the point is"...for the love of God he said exactly that.
edit on 27-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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You just have it backwards.

Listen to the full minute ad.

Government isn't our savior. It's a barrier we have to contend with.




posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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If you actually listen to what Obama is saying in context he isn't saying that people didn't build their own businesses, he's saying they didn't do it without help from government built infrastructure, teachers, family, friends, inspiration, etc.

The idea that someone can call this a gaffe is amazing.

There are real issues, substantive discussions to be had. It seems the media, and by extension the public at large, is content with sitting idly by nit-picking every word Romney and Obama say, reading to deeply into most of it, and purposefully misconstruing some of it to suit their empty political purposes.
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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by xuenchen
 


If you actually listen to what Obama is saying in context he isn't saying that people didn't build their own businesses, he's saying they didn't do it without help from government built infrastructure, teachers, family, friends, inspiration, etc.

The idea that someone can call this a gaffe is amazing.

There are real issues, substantive discussions to be had. It seems the media, and by extension the public at large, is content with sitting idly by nit-picking every word Romney and Obama say, reading to deeply into most of it, and purposefully misconstruing some of it to suit their empty political purposes.
edit on 27-7-2012 by Titen-Sxull because: (no reason given)


Charles Krauthammer listened to the entire speech.

He says that first Obama mocked the stupid capitalists.

Then Obama attacked the stupid capitalists and his true target - American Exceptionalism -.

Obama is a Radical Marxist just like Elisabeth Warren. They - HATE- capitalism.

If Obama wants to get re-elected he has to lie by omission and masquerade as a

harmless moderate who is simply misunderstood.

The truth slipped out when he turned off the teleprompter. Obama blew it and he

knows it. The damage control isn't working.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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I care what Krauthammer has to say because?

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why again?

This is the media with nothing of substance to focus on... and once again the discussion must devolve into some kind of grade school nonsense rather than elevating up.



posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


I care what Krauthammer has to say because?

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why again?

This is the media with nothing of substance to focus on... and once again the discussion must devolve into some kind of grade school nonsense rather than elevating up.


Here is another point of view from Kimberly Strassel.

Click on the WSJ link for the entire article.

- 4 Little Words - Why the Obama Campaign is suddenly so worried

- Kim Strassel - WSJl
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posted on Jul, 27 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Interesting that he ends the video with "we are all in this together". This is exactly the line that has been being pushed at home in the UK. It was the tories favorite catch line up until a few months ago.

"We are all in this together"


David Cameron has used his first speech as Prime Minister at the Conservative Party Conference to call on the country to "pull together".

The Conservatives' slogan "We're all in this together" is "not a cry for help, but a call to arms", he said.


news.sky.com...

It started to ring hollow after a while, being told by a bunch of privileged spivs that we are "all in it together".



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Love that reply GOP ad. How often would the rival party just have a full minute of their opponent showing that there was no edits to his "context". GOP 1 Obama 0.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
He doesn't need to do damage control because rational people understand what he was saying even taken out of context. The only people any damage control ad could hope to reach are people like you and honestly reaching the willfully braindead is more effort than it is worth.


Really?... Then why DID the President do damage control? I always love when one side declares intellectual superiority over the other. Makes me feel all warm inside.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by masterofnone
Crediting govt. with building new private businesses is simply absurd

Our infrastructure has taken generations to build, and has been used for the common good..... and sometimes evil.

No politician takes credit for the govt. when govt.roads are used for drunk/drugged driving
No politician takes credit for the $24K govt. handout given to James Holmes
No politician would tell Manson "somebody else made that happen"

Government doesn't produce anything tangible. It is SUPPOSED to use OUR money with BENEVOLENCE. Therein lies the problem. OUR money isn't enough to satiate the greed, so they borrow huge sums from the MALevolent un-Federal Reserve.

You can tell Barry is squirming


I think he was talking about inter connectivity and
Fraternity, I agree




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