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Infowars Special Report - LEAKED & EXPOSED: Secrets of Batman The Dark Knight Rises

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 01:54 AM
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This is a great analysis of the new Batman film. The makers of the film TRIED TO TAKE THIS VIDEO DOWN!

This is a must watch!

Please circulate far and wide:



In this video below, Alex says that "yesterday, the makers of the film ordered the video taken down,even though we used the trailers, small clips, it's all fair use, we're analysing it".


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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:03 AM
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Finally after 50 years of this propaganda being thrown at us, Alex Jones finally leaks and exposes the Batman conspiracy!!

I feel dumber having watched this crap.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:08 AM
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Wtf is wrong with ATS, lately? All these threads whining about a movies of FICTION that has not even been released yet. Seriously, some people have far too much time on their hands..



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by TsukiLunar
Wtf is wrong with ATS, lately? All these threads whining about a movies of FICTION that has not even been released yet. Seriously, some people have far too much time on their hands..


Do you not agree that Hollywood is involved in the mass brain-washing of people? What about the fact that the film makers told YouTube to take the infowars vid down?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:16 AM
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Any "News" source will always be aware of it's market audience and cater towards them. Alex for the most part IMO is a bit of a fear pornographer, but that aside, he knows what sells. New Batman film x Conspiracy = New segment for the viewers of infowars. Many people blame the organizations responsible for peddling this tripe as if there isn't an audience willing to watch it. It all goes hand in hand.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:23 AM
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Do you not agree that Hollywood is involved in the mass brain-washing of people?


No I do not. If you find a Hollywood movie - made in recent memory- that is so deep and psychologically affecting that I walk away a changed man, let me know.

Hollywood can barely make a movie, let alone one that would brain wash even the most susceptible of psyches.




What about the fact that the film makers told YouTube to take the infowars vid down?


Right, so the Illuminati controls the world and every aspect of the media and entertainment, and yet they cant even take down a youtube video?

Sounds like we have nothing to worry about.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:24 AM
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Sounds like everyone who has posted on here so far is asleep.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by chemistry
Sounds like everyone who has posted on here so far is asleep.


Personally, I believe you can draw analogies from many movies, Batman included. Obviously there are movies that blatantly market a message (eg: "Battlefield Earth"). I would never try and dissuade you, or anyone else from analyzing a movie and seeing if there are any legitimate ties to some organization or ideology. But after watching all of Nolan's 3 Batman films, I'd have to say all you can really do is draw analogies.
For example, Alex says in the 2nd film that The Joker makes his own clothes, therefore must be a psychopath who wants to blow up hospitals. Now if you look at the character you'll find he has an inherent hatred for society. So naturally wearing Prada would go against what THE CHARACTER would do. 2 sides to every coin.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by chemistry

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
Wtf is wrong with ATS, lately? All these threads whining about a movies of FICTION that has not even been released yet. Seriously, some people have far too much time on their hands..


Do you not agree that Hollywood is involved in the mass brain-washing of people? What about the fact that the film makers told YouTube to take the infowars vid down?


Makers of movies RELY on taking people out of every day life and entrenching them in a fantasy. It is WHY we watch movies. There is no brainwashing or anything of the sort. We watch science fiction to enjoy that slither of "What if". We enjoy horror to experience that "OH NO!" and we love soppy crap because "I'm lonely."

We Pay for it, we expect it and we accept it.

But as soon as this goes on, some nerd goes "Derpderp day takin yer brains away dude derpderp" and somehow You're the genius that knows all?

Brain washing... ffs..

And heres a tip.. put any copyright material on youtube and you'll have it removed. Blame copyright laws - which I despise btw - and not the ogre of superfluous control the tptb seemingly thrust upon you.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by chemistry
Sounds like everyone who has posted on here so far is asleep.


*snore*




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 03:44 AM
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Originally posted by mainidh

Originally posted by chemistry

Originally posted by TsukiLunar
Wtf is wrong with ATS, lately? All these threads whining about a movies of FICTION that has not even been released yet. Seriously, some people have far too much time on their hands..


Do you not agree that Hollywood is involved in the mass brain-washing of people? What about the fact that the film makers told YouTube to take the infowars vid down?


Makers of movies RELY on taking people out of every day life and entrenching them in a fantasy. It is WHY we watch movies. There is no brainwashing or anything of the sort. We watch science fiction to enjoy that slither of "What if". We enjoy horror to experience that "OH NO!" and we love soppy crap because "I'm lonely."

We Pay for it, we expect it and we accept it.

But as soon as this goes on, some nerd goes "Derpderp day takin yer brains away dude derpderp" and somehow You're the genius that knows all?

Brain washing... ffs..

And heres a tip.. put any copyright material on youtube and you'll have it removed. Blame copyright laws - which I despise btw - and not the ogre of superfluous control the tptb seemingly thrust upon you.







Really? You actually believe that this movie has no brainwashing? But then again it looks like you a sheep that already had all of his brainwashing to begin with so therefor you wouldn't even know what brainwashing is. Any and all movies and any tv show has some type of brainwashing, you just have to be awake enough to see it and from what I see you will never see it cause you are just another sheep. Your right alot of movies use alittle of fantasy but also a ton of brainwashing, thats all any movie is now a days is brainwashing.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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Don't let them get to you. I find that most naysayers are the one who don't actually investigate what is being stated. I also find it funny for anyone to down play anothers post by saying stuff like, "You must have too much time on your hands", when they are wasting their time on a conspiracy web site and then taking extra time to debunk you.

While I personally believe that Hollywood has a darker agenda then most people care to understand, I also believe it is easy to over react (and rightly so) to everything they put out. Either way, instead of just naysaying, we should be providing proof why we think so. The OP gave their evidence (even if it is not their own work). Now if someone disagrees, then start the debunking process and provide evidence to the contrary or explain where the other may be mistaken. There is no reason we can't disagree and still be respectfull at the same time.

I have been traversing the "Rabbit Hole" and investigating conspiracies and paranormal for over 10 years now and the one truth I have found so far is that... no one knows 100% what the truth is.

If something seems silly or goes against our beliefs, don't just disregard it entirely. Just like solving a puzzle...if you find a piece that doesn't fit in the area you are currently looking at, put it to the side for later, because it's still part of the larger puzzle.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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Leave the movie alone for gods sake and enjoy it as it is. If you do not like it enjoy life and stop being a sad creature looking for conspiracy everywhere. Find a hobby, go outside, fall in love or get a full time job of you can't refrain from wasting the internet space with fearmongering bollocks.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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Oh god, Alex Jones.
His words make me embarrassed.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Excellent! Your post is the best example of the ignorace I was writting about.

Do you know the OP enough to assume their occupation, leisure activity, or relationship status? Maybe their hobby is conspriracy theories. Mine is and I bet more than half here would say the same. That's why we're here!

Instead of making degrading comments based on sterotypical profiling of anyone with an alternative view, make an intelligent post based on the knowledge you've obtained. True not everything is a conspiracy. However, there is more going on in the world than anyone of us knows.
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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by iwan2ski
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Excellent! Your post is the best example of the ignorace I was writting about.

Do you know the OP enough to assume their occupation, leisure activity, or relationship status? Maybe their hobby is conspriracy theories. Mine is and I bet more than half here would say the same. That's why we're here!

Instead of making degrading comments based on sterotypical profiling of anyone with an alternative view, make an intelligent post based on the knowledge you've obtained. True not everything is a conspiracy. However, there is more going on in the world than anyone of us knows.
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Well said, my hobby is conspiracies, and yes not everything is a conspiracy but that's what we come on this site for, to discuss possible theories.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Right now I am ready to bet that Alex Jones is reading ATS daily and get some ideas from here



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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You have to be careful with Alex Jones but the fact is, he has a point here.

For instance, in the Dark Knight, Batman used new tech to create imagery of the area from people's mobile phones- that is flat out propaganda promoting the surveillance state. It equates our security with giving up privacy rights.

I recently rented the J Edgar Hoover film and turned it off after 20 minutes because it was pure propaganda for the surveillance state.

As Alex Jones says, we may not consciously connect the dots, but when we are watching films, our subconscious is forever at work making sense of the info and for that reason, Hollywood does brain wash us.

EDIT- I still watch the films, I enjoyed the new Batman film, but a few times in the film I was aware of little subtle things they add to the film that I consider propaganda.




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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
You have to be careful with Alex Jones but the fact is, he has a point here.

For instance, in the Dark Knight, Batman used new tech to create imagery of the area from people's mobile phones- that is flat out propaganda promoting the surveillance state. It equates our security with giving up privacy rights.

I recently rented the J Edgar Hoover film and turned it off after 20 minutes because it was pure propaganda for the surveillance state.

As Alex Jones says, we may not consciously connect the dots, but when we are watching films, our subconscious is forever at work making sense of the info and for that reason, Hollywood does brain wash us.

EDIT- I still watch the films, I enjoyed the new Batman film, but a few times in the film I was aware of little subtle things they add to the film that I consider propaganda.




edit on 24-7-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)


Sorry, but I think your view of the reasoning behind using the mobile phones to geolocate The Joker in "TDK" is a bit off.

If anything, it was meant as a question of 'how much liberty are you willing to sacrifice for security?" Remember, Morgan Freeman's character tells Bruce Wayne that for as long as that system is running, he will have nothing to do with Wayne Enterprises. If anything, it was an open question to things such as the Patriot Act and Internet surveillance, and how much will we tolerate if our safety is threatened.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dreine

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
You have to be careful with Alex Jones but the fact is, he has a point here.

For instance, in the Dark Knight, Batman used new tech to create imagery of the area from people's mobile phones- that is flat out propaganda promoting the surveillance state. It equates our security with giving up privacy rights.

I recently rented the J Edgar Hoover film and turned it off after 20 minutes because it was pure propaganda for the surveillance state.

As Alex Jones says, we may not consciously connect the dots, but when we are watching films, our subconscious is forever at work making sense of the info and for that reason, Hollywood does brain wash us.

EDIT- I still watch the films, I enjoyed the new Batman film, but a few times in the film I was aware of little subtle things they add to the film that I consider propaganda.




edit on 24-7-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)


Sorry, but I think your view of the reasoning behind using the mobile phones to geolocate The Joker in "TDK" is a bit off.

If anything, it was meant as a question of 'how much liberty are you willing to sacrifice for security?" Remember, Morgan Freeman's character tells Bruce Wayne that for as long as that system is running, he will have nothing to do with Wayne Enterprises. If anything, it was an open question to things such as the Patriot Act and Internet surveillance, and how much will we tolerate if our safety is threatened.


Well, the film brought up the idea- an invasion of privacy for security. What lengths can we go to protect the people? So we can both agree there.

Ultimately, the tech WAS used by Batman. AFTER it was used Fox destroyed it because of it's implications (if it got into the wrong hands for example), but that is the 'movie version' ending. The good guys mostly win in the movies.

The fact of the matter is, the idea was implanted into our sub conscious- that we can sacrifice privacy rights to make us safe. And in the film Batman used it to save people. So I don't think my POV is that far out (namely Batman decided people's privacy was less important than saving lives, and it is a convincing argument, but the point is the point of the propaganda in the first place!).


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