reply to post by DarthMuerte
I consider myself to be a Christian, but I am sure, if I were to espouse here all that I believe that you would say I am not a Christian. It is
historically clear that many of the founding fathers believed that this was a Christian nation. But there were also many founding fathers that
rejected the idea that this was a Christian nation.
Take Thomas Paine as one good example: In his pamphlet "Common Sense", Paine stated that this country was a providence from God. His overall
purpose in writing "Common Sense" was to motivate as many people as possible to support a declaration of independence from the government of King
George III. Years later, Paine would right "The Age of Reason"; the purpose of "The Age of Reason" was to debunk Christianity as a whole.
Between the Declaration of Independence, through the Articles of Confederation, up until the ratification of the Constitution, there were 6 or 7
states (I can't remember exact number as I haven't studied this in years), that had state constitutions that required public officials to be members
of a church in good standing. But this was ONLY 6 or 7, not all 13.
The point of all of this is very simple and stated again: Some believed that this was a Christian nation, and some did not. Some were deists and
believed in a "God", a "Creator", "Nature's God", but they were not Christians. Most of the founding fathers were well aware what could happen
if they declared this nation to be Christian...what would happen is arguments of WHICH sect or brand of Christianity? This is seen at many places on
the internet where Christians feel they need to proselytize. First you go after the atheists, and when you don't get anywhere then you go after the
Jehovah Witnesses, the Mormons, and finally the Roman Catholics.
You cheered and celebrated when they said that Osama Bin Laden was dead. The Bible tells you not to rejoice when your enemies fall. You
"Christians" booed Ron Paul when he cited Jesus' golden rule "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... you booed because you seem to
enjoy the military industrial complex and the continuing of wars and rumors of wars. Ron Paul is better Christian, he doesn't wear it on his sleeve.
You celebrate victims of the death penalty, even though the death penalty is not applied in a Christian manner in this country..."everything shall be
established by two or three witnesses"....which is why one of the commandments is: "thou shalt not bear false witness". This is not talking about
everyday lies...this is about lies in a trial. Jesus told his disciples to go out and preach but leave your beggar bags at home...but I have seen
most of your tel-evangelists begging for money (tithes). You believe in a Pre-Tribulation rapture, yet how many times does Jesus say "those that
endure until the end shall be saved"? You demand prayer in schools, yet Jesus said, don't be like the hypocrites that pray in the street, go into a
closet and pray to your Father in heaven.
You spend so much time telling the world that you are Christian, you don't have the time to actually learn it and practice it.