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Teen Girl Gets Sexually Assaulted, Tweets About It And May Land In Jail

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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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I applaud this girl and can only hope that her assailants meety a grim and painful demise.


Simple fact. We live in a society that tolerates rape and sexual abuse. It is part of our DNA almost.

Just look at what the catholic church alone is responsible for. They have no remorse and nobody has the courage to bring them to justice.

We send students to prison for a bag of weed and we spend a fortune "rehabilitating' rapists, sometimes even giving them an education to 3rd level standards.

We tolerate this crap. Sure we feign disgust at the news reports about such crimes but it's an act with no substance We care more about whether or not Charlie Sheen is winning than whether our neighbours child might be in peril.

Only after the horse has bolted are stable doors shut..This indicates a "not my problem" attitude. "It's not my problem unless it happens to my family"

I can understand this mentality in the common plebian mind, but it is the fact that it prevails all the way through the legal system that disturbs me. Judges don't care, lawmakers don't care. Why not implement the death sentence? You rape my child you are eliminated.What's wrong with that scenario?I'll tell you what's wrong.We has a society wouldn't tolerate that you see.

A band called "The Manic Street Preachers" wrote a song called "If You Tolerate This (Then Your Children will be Next" . It's always made me wonder how the the parents of a rape victim must feel after turning a blind eye to the plight of others for years.




posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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She's 17, drinks until she passes out at a party. By doing that she put herself in the position to be abused/raped or whatever happened.

On the other hand the fact that she's drunk and passed out obviously doesn't give the boys the "right" to do what they did either.

It sounds like the girl's parents had a piss poor lawyer. They should've been informed immediately that a possible plea bargain was in the works, not just before the court appearance.

This is a juvenile case where they're all under age so no names are to be divulged by court order. Right or wrong, she violated that.

However i don't blame her for doing what she did, i'd be beyond irate myself.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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If you live in the vicinity of this incident, and have a young daughter who might potentially get involved with one of these scumbags, then this 17 year old girl is doing you a big favor by telling you who they are. Name and shame.

The idea that these pieces of #@*% should get a carte blanche on account of their age, is beyond crazy.It's not like they didn't know what they were doing was wrong.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Well gee, every time an adults acts in his defense against a kid he or she gets shouted down. It doesn't matter if the kid is being violent, the adult is wrong for attacking a kid. There is no call for an adult under any circumstances to attack a kid.

Why should there be any exception to the rule?

Kids are special, and a specially protected member of society, and can do no wrong.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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UPDATE to this situation..


Contempt motion dropped against Ky. teenager

A 17-year-old Kentucky girl who defied a court order by tweeting the names of two teenagers who pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting her won't face a contempt charge.
David Mejia (meh-HEE'-yah), an attorney for one of the accused boys, says the motion to hold 17-year-old Savannah Dietrich of Louisville in contempt was withdrawn Monday.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by goou111
reply to post by Unity_99
 


i 100% agree

but still if your not there drinking so much that you frikin pass out

you dont get raped

so again ill say you have to be smarter
edit on 23-7-2012 by goou111 because: (no reason given)


Did you seriously say that? People get raped all the time when they are completely aware, awake, and sober.

The fact she was drunk at a party doesn't matter. It's shameful to be bringing up this fact, the ONLY reason for doing so would be to pass some blame off on the VICTIM and to defend the perpetrators. Disgusting.


Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
It's called innocent until proven guilty, and tweeting about something when all somebody has is just claims about is libel. Women have always cried rape on men, so why should I believe any woman's claim of rape? Contrary to popular belief, women are not more honest than men by virtue of being women. Far too many women are manipulative liars who will use claims of rape frivolously to gain control over men.

But those boys pleaded guilty.


What is the point of your post? There is no question as to whether or not these boys did it. ZERO question. They admitted to it, there are pictures of it. Case closed.

So what point, if any, were you trying to make? Innocent until proven guilty? That's not relevant to this thread. The boys are not only proven but admitted guilty.

Jeez I'm really starting to wonder about ATS members....



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Would take me about 1 minute in the jury room to swing a not guilty and let her walk.

Hopefully there are not 12 people in America that would agree that what she did was wrong in some way.

Just like with prohibition - why was it repealed?

Mostly because juries wouldn't convict people on the charges.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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You also said you got fired from your job for sexual harrassment. Perhaps its not the women, its you with the problem.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
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Ya that's so true
I think rape is too severe to not be registered even if you are not an adult yet


Pity rape and sexual crimes are not treated in a gender neutral manner. After all, 70%+ of convicted rapists where themselves raped at a young age by an older woman. And then their is the 80% of male and female juvenile inmates who are raped/sexually assaulted by female staff....

But the same guy's who preach "girls just want to have fun", and those prepubescent boys that get raped where "lucky", seem to often be among the first to run to the rescue of the damsels in distress.

The story say's nothing about rape, only sexual assault(groping) and voyeurism. Sounds similar to the case in Florida where several teenage girls stripped, groped and video recorded it(and put the naked boy who was crying for his mother) up on Youtube.

But the Florida cop's said "there is nothing we can do"(in spite of must arrest law's in regard to child pornography and child sexual assault).

And if I remember many White Knights cheered the girl's on and chided the boy for being gay for not wanting to be sexually assaulted against his will.
edit on 23-7-2012 by korathin because: forgot a "t" in "the"



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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While I believe this girl has a right to speak about what has happened to her, we have laws for a reason and she knowingly violated one. If she is willing to do the time or pay the fine for violating that law, then by all means allow her to speak away. However, if she believes that juveniles should not have their names protected then she should attempt to remove the century old law that allows juveniles to get a second chance at life, even when they do something really bad. The biggest problem I see is that the prosecutor did not charge these juveniles as adults. Perhaps there was not enough evidence available to convict the male juveniles and so a plea bargain was struck. Possibly the prosecutors should have included the victim in on the decision to prosecute or not. This might have possibly helped the situation.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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The fourth branch of government that isn't spoken of. No government can convict you without a jury agreeing to it. If a law is unjust or unfair it is probably the rights of people in the jury to nullify the law by returning a not guilty verdict.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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I think it's ridiculous that the press have free reign to name victims but are unable to name criminals in many cases.

Why shouldn't the victims of crime have their say, especially after a conviction has been secured?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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I'm telling you here and now that any laws to prohibit her naming her assailants ARE CRIMINAL and whoever thinks they need to exist can keep their bad opinions to themselves.

Cause we the people ARE NEVER GOING TO OBEY AND ARE NOT VIOLATING ANY LEGAL LAW, JUST AN ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ORDER TO OBEY. AND YUP, YOU NAILED THAT ONE.


No one's army could make me stand under that, and I would break any child of mine out of jail if THUGS AND CRIMINALS EVER TRIED ANYTING WITH US.

People have to start standing up for what is truly right and make huge stinks that end their insanity once and for all.
edit on 23-7-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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no surprise there, judges and those in power at the moment are either kiddy fiddlers or just plain perverts IMHO



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by korathin
After all, 70%+ of convicted rapists where themselves raped at a young age by an older woman.


Ya you are going to have to back up that claim

I don't think i've ever read a post on ATS in my life that required a source to backup a claim more than this one

Need a source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Golf66
Would take me about 1 minute in the jury room to swing a not guilty and let her walk.


I don't think contempt of court is done with a jury of the people.

They probably just looked at the public backlash and dropped it, not even giving an explanation as to why in a statement. Not that anyone's complaining mind you.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by groingrinder
A civil lawsuit would be better than tweets. Once they have pled guilty in a criminal court, getting a civil judgement should almost be guaranteed.


Wish I could give you more stars. My thought sexactly. Hit 'em where it hurts, hurt them where it counts. Sue the # outta them.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by igor_ats

Originally posted by Golf66
Would take me about 1 minute in the jury room to swing a not guilty and let her walk.


I don't think contempt of court is done with a jury of the people.

They probably just looked at the public backlash and dropped it, not even giving an explanation as to why in a statement. Not that anyone's complaining mind you.


You may indeed be correct I am not certain of the nature of the legal system in KY. I did think; however, that regardless of the crime in the US the accused has the right to face his accuser, to call witnesses and to have a trial by a jury of his/her peers. It's not a well if you do X you are in contempt, and the Judge passes sentance case closed - sucks to be you. I certainly hope that is not the case anyway.

Sort of like in the military - lots of charges are handled at the non-judicial level but even in the case of a minor infraction the accused has the right to demand court martial instead of lesser alternative of having his/her Commander decide the issue.

I would think that this is true in all instances in the civilian court system as well. I bet one could (not saying it wouldn’t be hard) ask for a trial by jury for traffic infractions rather than the single traffic Judge deciding your fate.

I hope that is the case anyway....

Perhaps a lawyer on the forum can tell us?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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The fact that the boys took a plea deal does not make them 100% guilty. It's not like it would be the first time that an innocent person took a guilty plea in order to avoid a long drawn out 'he-said' vs 'she-said trial. Does the name Brian Banks ring a bell?

Neither I nor the rest of the public has any real facts about this case in order to make an informed judgement about who is guilty and who is not. Simply taking a 'still image' of a sexual activity and showing it to your friends is not proof of rape. For all I know, the girl agreed to sex and later cried rape when she sobered up and was ashamed that other people knew the types of things she did.

If she accused the boys of breaking the law and they have to pay the price, then she shouldn't be excused from breaking the law either. If the law says that juveniles should have their identity shielded in order to give them a chance at turning their lives around, then she doesn't have the right to take that away from them.

This girl was so high on drugs or alcohol that she passed out. How can she or anyone else know for sure that she wasn't a willing participant and just happened to fall asleep after it started?

If the case was more clear cut and she was attacked walking down the street or just hanging out, then I could trust her story a lot more and would not care about the accused having their names released.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by James1982

Originally posted by goou111
reply to post by Unity_99
 


i 100% agree

but still if your not there drinking so much that you frikin pass out

you dont get raped

so again ill say you have to be smarter
edit on 23-7-2012 by goou111 because: (no reason given)


Did you seriously say that? People get raped all the time when they are completely aware, awake, and sober.

The fact she was drunk at a party doesn't matter. It's shameful to be bringing up this fact, the ONLY reason for doing so would be to pass some blame off on the VICTIM and to defend the perpetrators. Disgusting.


Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
It's called innocent until proven guilty, and tweeting about something when all somebody has is just claims about is libel. Women have always cried rape on men, so why should I believe any woman's claim of rape? Contrary to popular belief, women are not more honest than men by virtue of being women. Far too many women are manipulative liars who will use claims of rape frivolously to gain control over men.

But those boys pleaded guilty.


What is the point of your post? There is no question as to whether or not these boys did it. ZERO question. They admitted to it, there are pictures of it. Case closed.

So what point, if any, were you trying to make? Innocent until proven guilty? That's not relevant to this thread. The boys are not only proven but admitted guilty.

Jeez I'm really starting to wonder about ATS members....


wow your post proves my point completly ty

women are raped all the time right?

so dont you think that being 17 and passed out drunk at a party is pretty frikin stupid

ill say it agin the boys were wrong wrong wrong

but if the girl is not so f--- up she passes out this doesnt happen

to all the young girls on the site

PLEASE BE SMARTER



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