Commercial Flights over Groom Lake Area??

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Take a look here at two United flights being really close to Groom Lake area.
I thought this was a very restricted area which would be R-4808N.
This was taken from Planefinder.net

Is this normal especially if Nellis are NOT conducting Red Flags??



edit on 13-7Jul-122012 by darpa999 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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Even with no flags running, commercial aircraft would not be flying that close to Groom Lake. What is happening is there are thunderstorms around Vegas. The last time I check they were west of the city. Ely is really getting zapped. By some fluke, the NTTR is relatively lightning free. Thus ATC instructed the commercial flights to go over the range. It is Nellis Control in charge, so it is not like the DoD doesn't know what is going on.

I posted one of these reroutings a few years ago.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is my old post. Don't get me wrong concerning my interest level. Any time some commercial plane flies over the range, I would like to hear about it.

This is the live lightning viewer for the Nellis range;
www.sord.nv.doe.gov...



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Here is the NOTAM for the current Red Flag. "L" indicates local time. "Z" for zulu. Note Nellis gets the times wrong often. ;-) Due to the location of the international dateline, even the days are often posted incorrectly.



Data Current as of: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:58:00 UTC

LSV   NELLIS AFB M0254/12 -

LARGE FORCE EXERCISE IN PROGRESS. NO TRANSIENT ACFT ARRIVAL OR DEPARTURES DURING LAUNCH AND RECOVERY TIMES.

MASS LAUNCH AND RECOVERY TIMES ARE:
16-17 JULY 1500-1600L (2200-2300Z),
1700-1830L(0000-0130Z),
AND
2130-2230L(0430-0530Z).
13 JUL 22:40 2012 UNTIL 17 JUL 05:30 2012.

CREATED: 13 JUL 22:45 2012 TNX  
TONOPAH TEST RANGE
M0108/12 -
MOVEMENT AREA VFR OPERATORS USE CAUTION FOR INCREASED VOLUME OF HIGH PERFORMANCE MILITARY FLIGHT OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT R4809A. 13 JUL 14:04 2012 UNTIL 20 JUL 23:59 2012. CREATED: 13 JUL 14:11 2012



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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For some reason your images were deleted. If they were on planefinder, most likely they are on flightaware if you know the flight ID or tail number. Do you have that data available?



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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Interesting...I've never heard of a commercial plane flying directly over 4808. That would be pretty cool for the passengers. lol



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 04:37 AM
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Here it is:

This is one of them. You may have to pan to the right to see Groom Lake. Its not hard to miss on map.

edit on 15-7Jul-122012 by darpa999 because: (no reason given)





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