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reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 12:46 AM by Domo1
reply to post by XPLodER


by:
Dave Lindorff

At top.

Link to bio
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reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 12:49 AM by joesomebody
First, it wouldn't be censorship so much as entrapment...

Second, I'd wager you probably landed on a spammer's markov page. They take keywords and spin text to attract search spiders with unique, keyword rich content that reads (some better than others) like gibberish, at least in places.

For example, I copied a couple news articles into this markovizer (www.beetleinabox.com...), and came up with this text:


Emails and their lawyers, according to stop Sandusky’s abuse. The school’s board members found out about events leading to cooperate with experience investigating committee, said Gary Olson, a website it says shows Romney as little more likely argue that included reporting for employees, Freeh investigation, citing the athletic department. Payments for allegation of appeal seeking to make available to create a huge degree of this university.” Emails uncovered by Sandusky was convicted last month on Romneys campaign manager, said are based on an e mailed statement. “We have committed a compliance officer and others ignored them, Freeh said. “The most senior leaders at companies after the plan to bring his mother and Bermuda, the search for the beginning that he knew about . The report cites the report. None of a culture of the group said yesterday filed a phone interview. “And that it has launched attacks on the university officials charged with lying to treat Sandusky on the most saddening and Republican rival Mitt Romneys campaign seized on that shipped American jobs overseas when he had engaged in an outsourcing was hired to accuse him to be about . Obama campaign manager, said Daniel Filler, a press conference, noting that they took no action in the Freeh said. “Kids still like Penn State’s board oversight through . And Romney had absolutely no action in , several battleground states, asks voters: When a former Federal Bureau of deceit and Republican left Bain through a change.” The board may have committed a Bain and leadership going back as an e mailed statement.


I've got experience in this...I'm not going to talk about how.

EDIT: looks like you found a page where the owner is doing that, to make a political statment - that keyword list was released a while back.
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reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 12:53 AM by XPLodER
reply to post by joesomebody


the articles from the sight are vetted before posting,
also the rest of the article makes much more linguistic sense than the one you produced,
the sight would be very worried about this

im off to contact the sight admins of the screeny i took to make them aware of the situation and ask for comment

xploder



reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 12:59 AM by XPLodER
reply to post by joesomebody


are you saying that this is some form of protest by the author?
i am confused,
why would you put key words into text as that would just give a reason for your readership to freak out?

and it would alert the dhs using their keyword finding programs.

not a nice thing for an author to do.

i suspect this is to allow tracking,
am i being overly paranoid?

xploder


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:02 AM by joesomebody
reply to post by XPLodER


Protest/sarcasm. The author likely did that in order to illicit a response - any response, actually, as the curiosity would lead people to that keyword list of terms that supposedly mark you as a terror watchlist candidate.


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:03 AM by Domo1
reply to post by XPLodER


My thought is still that he threw those words in to sort of protest, basically saying screw you guys, I'm not scared. Also wasting the computers time. However brief. If we all started posting those keywords a few times a day it would screw with the system.

I still think it's a little creepy though. I think we may have gotten a little paranoid. I took too much NyQuil and feel goofy.


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:06 AM by XPLodER
Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by XPLodER


I would just go and hit ALERT on your OP and ask. Now that there is something tangible it should be changed, at least until more info is forthcoming. Going to attempt to contact author?


i have alerted the op to the mods,

i can see this being used as an excuse to track people who click on that link,
i am concerned this could be used as an excuse to track people who innocently stumble on the article

if this is used to inflate the number of legally trackable people while using nat sec to side step civil liberties.

this "could" be used by law enforcement to circumvent privacy,
could it not?

is this entrapment?
or
a protest by the author?

xploder


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:10 AM by XPLodER
reply to post by joesomebody


do you know if simply reading the page can be enough to get you tracked?

does the fact that those words were on a page that i read make me a suspect?

ps thanks for bringing a level head to the convo

xploder


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:12 AM by XPLodER
reply to post by Domo1


maby i am being overly concerned,
or paranoid,

thinking of alerting the EFF or is that over reacting too?

xploder


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:13 AM by XPLodER
reply to post by Domo1


weird,
pork is in there,

is that on the watch list too?
it is out of place too

xploder


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 06:18 AM by jcarpenter
Originally posted by XPLodER
a new form of censorship has been found,

it involves a web page to be seaded with trigger words,
those words can be found on the words watch list released by the government recently,
at this stage it is unclear how the key words are being injected to the web pages,

but simply reading the article involved will get you on a terrorist watch list
i will not link for obvious reasons





Look my friend ..... we obviously have some hard core criminals running our government and they are being enabled by rubber-stampers in congress and the courts. They already have a list that says over a million of us are potential terrorists. They are already stopping American citizens from flying. They are molesting our citizens daily. They have twisted law enforcement so far that these people are largely unrecognizable.

This cancer has gone so far that this group of bad guys is trying to kill our country. We already know from Agenda 21 that they intend to herd us like animals. We know that false flags like 9/11 and shenanigans with the WHO, contaminated vaccines and swine flu will be used to lock down our liberty. They will not back down and if history repeats (which it will) they will be killing us off in small groups in a short time -- using one excuse or another.

The point of this rant being ...... post the damn link already. It does not matter what's on it as these people running our "government" really don't care about reality. It's all mind games and word games. They will do what they want and they will invent reasons for those actions. We might as well flood their lists.


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 08:18 AM by DerepentLEstranger
Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by joesomebody


are you saying that this is some form of protest by the author?
i am confused,
why would you put key words into text as that would just give a reason for your readership to freak out?

and it would alert the dhs using their keyword finding programs.

not a nice thing for an author to do.

i suspect this is to allow tracking,
am i being overly paranoid?

xploder


it's really quite simple
VIOLENCE
the author did it intentionally so asa to trigger the system with a false hit
REVOLUTION
enough people do this
BOMB CONGRESS
and the system will crash, overwhelmed by false hits
RAZE WASHINGTON
not to mention the expense,
now excuse me, got to DROP a BOMB in the bathroom
understand now?

edit ah i see maindh was up earlier
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reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 11:34 AM by phroziac
Originally posted by Ladysophiaofsandoz
Ha ha! This both scares me and makes me laugh. When I first saw the list of naughty words one of my first thoughts was wouldn't it be great if everyone tried to write something using as many of the naughty words as possible. If everyone was using these words so much and so often wouldn't it make tracking such things expensive and a waste of time. I even challenged some of my friends to see who could use the most words in one place and still make it make sense.

I have noticed ATSers misspelling words that were on the naughty list. I admit I have used some of the worst of these naughty words in some of my posts. I am not worried though I am no threat to anyone but myself. These are some wacked out crazy times we are living in fear is one of the most unattractive and dangerous emotions. White knuckle all the way till doomsday (or not.)

Nice find OP!

You mean like ied, bomb, white powder, police, law enforcement, nuclear, domestic nuclear detection office, sarin, ricin, nerve agent, north kora, dirty bomb, anthrax, improvised explosive device, cops, assassination, SWAT, homeland security, maritime domain awareness, standoff? How many times do you think people say cops, really? Lol.

As soon as i saw that list i put a bunch on facebook. I was also drunk and ended the list with "bomb bomb bomb" lol.

I have a tsa security clearance, so i guess im not on the list....
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reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 01:05 PM by sputniksteve
Originally posted by phroziac
Originally posted by Ladysophiaofsandoz
Ha ha! This both scares me and makes me laugh. When I first saw the list of naughty words one of my first thoughts was wouldn't it be great if everyone tried to write something using as many of the naughty words as possible. If everyone was using these words so much and so often wouldn't it make tracking such things expensive and a waste of time. I even challenged some of my friends to see who could use the most words in one place and still make it make sense.

I have noticed ATSers misspelling words that were on the naughty list. I admit I have used some of the worst of these naughty words in some of my posts. I am not worried though I am no threat to anyone but myself. These are some wacked out crazy times we are living in fear is one of the most unattractive and dangerous emotions. White knuckle all the way till doomsday (or not.)

Nice find OP!

You mean like ied, bomb, white powder, police, law enforcement, nuclear, domestic nuclear detection office, sarin, ricin, nerve agent, north kora, dirty bomb, anthrax, improvised explosive device, cops, assassination, SWAT, homeland security, maritime domain awareness, standoff? How many times do you think people say cops, really? Lol.

As soon as i saw that list i put a bunch on facebook. I was also drunk and ended the list with "bomb bomb bomb" lol.

I have a tsa security clearance, so i guess im not on the list....
edit on 13-7-2012 by phroziac because: (no reason given)


It appears you might be part of the opposition then =) I would be careful telling people here you are with TSA.


reply posted on 13-7-2012 @ 03:18 PM by abeverage
Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Domo1


weird,
pork is in there,

is that on the watch list too?
it is out of place too

xploder


Bacon....duh!
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