Clinton: "China and Russia will pay price for supporting Assad regeme"

Yeah you know what I'm talkin about. Now that you have approved their use, I am sure the arms dealers will have the 2 foot in diameter stealth long range variety ready for Christmas in Washington.

There are probably only 2 or 3 million people in that region who will buy one and send it to you as a present some day.

I see we're all still playing the blame game.

America is suspicious of China and Russia for numerous reasons and will verbally insult where they can. Russia and China are guilty of their own transgressions and will insult the USA when they can. There are no saints here, they are all as bad as each other and anyone who takes sides in saying their government is better or worse is just as pathetic as the cheer leaders for Assad.

All of these governments are corrupt, self-serving, murderous, despicable regimes in their own way.

The only people that actually matter are those on the ground being maimed and killed by the weapons all of these despots throw at each other.

In answer to the OP, she means international cooperation. There are thousands of steps that will be taken before any declaration of war will ever come. When embassy staff are being restricted, then maybe start to worry. Until then, we'll see them playing their games for a long while yet.

reply to post by detachedindividual


Well if you take a look at the map, you will see that the Silk Road runs from Turkey into Syria into Iran, and it can't go north of Syria because the mountains are there...

The E90
goo.gl...

And everyone wants a piece of the action on the Silk Road, they want tolls and maybe even to stop traffic and who knows so the only way to do this might be though the IMF and G20 to make a highway improvement project, and set guidelines for use and make it into a free trade zone.
Just the area around the highway right through to Asia. That would link Turkey with Asia and India and then once Greece and Cyprus have bowed down before them, cow towed as it were, then they could be permitted to buy goods at an inflated price.

Originally posted by SaneThinking
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

 

Hope CNN doesn't have too tell you how to put your pants on in the morning as well, yeah Assad the butcher, LoL

Quick question what you gonna call Obama then, will he be humanslayer as well, when he uses the new provisions in the NDAA, to execute americans and north americans in the name of maintaining stability.

The problem here is one is happening right now and is reality in Syria and the second is a flight of fantasy in your mind.

www.washingtonpost.com... ry.html

100 billion a year America has been spending in Afghanistan.

You people are no good with money. And you have supposed Jewish bankers? Oh vey.

With 5 billion, you can build a trade hub. By itself, its nothing. But build a whole bunch of them in the entire region and connect them strategically, you have huge economic development. You know money, profit. Perhaps you have heard of it.

Giant pharmaceutical companies from Europe Asia and America, set up shop in Afghanistan, it becomes a region of holistic health products and pharmaceuticals to serve the needs of 7 billion people.

But they won't set up shop there if you do not give them a suitable place to operate securely with some facilities. A trade center for their industry there on the Silk Road.

www.washingtonpost.com... ry.html

So in that article, you see corruption as an issue. Well one countries idea of corruption and another's is different.

There are places where greasing the palms is how they do business. They have a patronage system whereby you do favors for each other. Not unlike the political system in the USA. Only theirs is maybe not as slimy. More transparent.

The SCO (again with the SCO lol) they should handle the security writ large there. Its close to Russia and China, they know what they are doing there in terms of security.

So if lets say European and Asian pharmaceutical companies, and now Japanese and Russian, since they have agreed to manage security when NATO leaves, at least that part which relates to pharmaceuticals, keeping in mind Afghanistan is a supplier to those companies, codeine is made from those poppies as are other pharmaceuticals.
But poppies are easy to grow they grow them everywhere as suppliers including Turkey and India. Pakistan as well.

But the advantage to Afghanistan is it has a very large undeveloped area that could be secured.

Companies like that need security. So you could make a large secure trade zone. I would not put it by Kabul.

This industry would want to make its own region, and it would want to draw labor from universities in Iran and Pakistan.
And maybe Moscow and Japan.

So then you might have to have small regions that companies can also provide their own security in.
And just have an overseer security force, and well as far as the Afghanistan gov taking them to the cleaners well you have to have deals in place long term.

And if the custom there is that you have to grease the wheels, well then maybe that is how they do business.

But if its foreign to you, then maybe someone else should handle security like Russia and Japan, but then you still need the SCO in there and not just Russia. You need China too. You want to include everyone, and then you have a better chance of it working and Afghanistan not pissing anyone off with high taxes later.

There would be too many major players for them to not just be rational.

But keep in mind they are the second poorest country. So grease the wheels.

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frig she is a despicable woman

reply to post by Rocketman7


Besides, spending 100 billion a year on military exercises, is not the same as spending it on Afghanistan on economic development, I have seen the figures.

And 100 billion of the military budget is a small amount of money. When you have a region that size and its for your use.

That costs money. The money that was spent on economic development was small by comparison, and it went into agriculture programs and various other attempts at some sort of stimulus. The Geophysical survey identified some mines and that industry has already made deals with the SCO and they have agreed to invest in that industry.

So the studies that have been done tell us one thing, poppies are a perennial crop that takes nothing at all to grow. They grow by themselves so trying to get them to now grow wheat which is damn hard work, is just not going to happen.

And nothing will grow in most of Afghanistan because it is small boulders dust and rock.

Ok so then we need to find something and pharmaceuticals would work. They would need power well power is available in Iran for export and one of the stans to the north. Pakistan would pipe power across the border and then set up its wing close by its own border and same with Iran.

But there are other power generation stations in Afghanistan and companies can generate their own power.

You could always build more power generation stations.
I can see it working with large and small companies working together in a zone dedicated to medicinal drugs of all kinds East and Western medicine. Including Internet companies that need suppliers, or want to grow their own herbs there whatever they are and hit that trade hub, where their market will be for wholesalers.

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So there is a possibility that Europe and Asia does not want American pharmaceutical giants included.

So Japan has kept the door open for you, because Japan is a good nation that has large companies that will do joint ventures. So as of today, they are saying 3.9 billion as opposed to 5 billion which is our magic number that we are communicating with on the Silk Road.

So they are open for 1.1 billion investment, so thats a small share but its a way in.

The real thing you want to do is have companies do joint ventures. Then America could do joint venture companies there with Japan.

But then you will have to have a strategic agreement with the SCO and I didn't see those documents that was a week and a half ago, I noticed it go by though, that America has the right to protect its interests well the thing is you might be looking at paid security guards, and then maybe a joint US Japanese security force over the larger region dedicated to your companies, then you can invest in a power plant, but ultimately, the SCO will have the say regarding security and hopefully right through to Turkey to keep it simple.

All we want to do is ship goods back and forth along the Silk Road. Greece, Spain, many countries in Europe need that route fixed and economic development to encourage trade and commerce and jobs.

So regardless of what companies spend in Afghanistan, the IMF and the G20, need to take the bull by the horns and say ok, we will build these trade hubs and connect them. And you can invest and build around them.
That means airports, shipping ports, maybe dry dock, and trade centers, with security. And highway improvement. Maybe even rail, and high speed rail eventually.

reply to post by Rocketman7


goo.gl...

That is Afghanistan, and it is in the center of the Silk Road, right in the heart of SCO territory.

en.wikipedia.org...

And the reason that organization exists, is to prevent other regions of the world from trying to set up shop and or take over those countries in their region. You know to stop Imperialism.

Now I studied history, man I have taken hundreds of courses, lol and I don't know everyone's name from the wars there through the ages because their numbers are uncountable.
en.wikipedia.org...

So we might take advantage of the security there and medicine seems like a good industry which would keep that trade route open because if companies say if you hinder traffic with high tolls the price of medicine will go up, well the people will agree and prevent that.

reply to post by Rocketman7


So Hanuman wants to know why we can't just let America handle the security then and for one reason there is no port. It is land locked. 2ndly 100 billion a year they can't afford, and pharmaceutical companies do not want that as an overhead.
The reason, that it is so expensive is that America is there. It wouldn't cost hardly anything if they were not there.

Will someone please give Hillary a little camo outfit with helmet and boots and ship her azz out to the region already??

If she wants to butt into other country's affairs and press the war-chess-pieces, then maybe she needs to strap her combat boots up and head out there already. Instead of watching us commoners fight for their sick twisted agendas and the wars THEY START.

For all of the BIG MOUTH war-mongers in high positions who are nothing but COWARDS: STRAP UP, and HEAD OUT!!

Our SONS and DAUGHTERS in the military have had ENOUGH of your NONSENSE!!

reply to post by Rocketman7


At present Afghanistan has a market for 20% of its poppies that it grows and sells to the pharmaceutical industry, it fetches 90 bucks per kilo todays market price. Ok so thats not as good as safron, which I am always suggesting, and they are saying sure, when we get 90 dollars per kilo, and do not have to work hard.

So, expand the industry, buy up that remaining 80% and thats one less social ill we have to worry about and it is expensive to deal with that problem. In every seedy neighborhood in the Western World and everywhere else.

So again I say, that expense of investing in those hubs on the Silk Road is money well spent for the G20. And since it would be an international organization, Russia, China are in the G20 as well remember, then you have security for those hubs, now you have an international base of security, although small, its meaningful, and then around that base of operations, you have the SCO and other security groups protecting their vested interests.
All the way through to Turkey, and make a side road to Tartus, the port there so that Syria can ship to Cyprus or Greece or companies from those countries can set up shop in Syria too.

Originally posted by amurphy245
Hopefully one day that woman will pay the price of her crimes

Children that discovered the smuggling operations at Mena, Arkansas were murdered and the crimes were covered up by the state. Numerous documentaries are available.

The fact that we are still afflicted by these miscreants is absolute proof that our government has been overthrown.

reply to post by Rocketman7


For those who do not know how the trade route works, you have seals, on your goods, placed there by agents, and if you mess with that parcel, and break that seal on route, the giant-sized security force that has power in the region (historically) will punish you.

Now that often allows caravans to travel through various countries. Its a simple system of trust for the mutual benefit of trade and commerce.

Now Barack today mentioned trade tariffs with China and American cars, and well that is a response to some other events and these go back and forth between countries all the time when one country says you are favoring your companies and giving them cash bailouts or handouts they see that as protectionism.

Well you are not going to solve your trade imbalances over the backs of your unemployed.
You need to have people working first, and then ruin their lives. You are ruining their lives now, by fighting over trade and they can't get jobs.

So you need to look at this route, as just the first route we could fix. And if we join up 90 hubs world wide, then you will have some science to use to solve your trade disputes. Proper demographics.

But if you cannot at least get the Silk Road back up and running properly so that Greece, Spain, Portugal, Cyprus, all those countries can contribute then you might as well all become part of a new Germany.

Originally posted by blueorder

frig she is a despicable woman

She may (or may not) have the correct plumbing, but she's no woman. "We came, we saw, he died". This bitc* is a psychopathic freakin' monster.

the WW3 looks pretty plausible now
and people though in the cold war the tension with russia was cold
imagine now

Clinton is part of the illuminati and she just wants what all the other with her wants
the prophecy that near the end of time (21 december 2012)
they would be a great war
that mean the illuminati planned that thousand of yrs ago
secret running deep in sacret bloodline famillies (13)

some say china and Russia are with them .. but i dont believe that
they have prooven themself not to be with them on Syria and Iran
but russia and china know who they are and how much nukes they control
they dont want to make a bad move
but will have no choice to protect Syria and Iran now

reply to post by Rocketman7


So lets look at the map. You can't play risk without looking at the map...

goo.gl...

What if we started with as a ball park, 5 hubs in Africa, 10 in South America, 10 Indonesia and Australia, thats 25, so we have 65 left.

20 North America and Central America, 20 Europe, and 25 in Russia and Asia. So lets expand that to 10 for Baltic slavic Russian stans old Soviet type countries, and 15 for China and Japan.

Africa 5
South America 10
Indonesia Australia New Zealand etc 10
North America 20
Europe and Scandanavia 20
Slavic Russian Baltic countries 10
China 10
Korea 2
Japan 3

5 billion dollar trade hub each location.

So use some of those to fix the Silk Road.

Ok, India and Pakistan 7 lol ( you just know they would kill each other) ok 8.

And then reduce North America by 4 and Europe by 4 to 16 each.

So the G20 can work with that geographical distribution and put them where they would be strategic for trade.
Thats just a rough get you started basic distribution.

So then you can work on the Silk Road. Investment capital and a good long term investment with plans for growth globally to help trade and commerce.