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Clinton: "China and Russia will pay price for supporting Assad regeme"

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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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I see the wicked witch of the west is getting mouthy while she`s surrounded by her flying monkeys!...

“I do not believe that Russia and China are paying any price at all – nothing at all – for standing up on behalf of the Assad regime. The only way that will change is if every nation represented here directly and urgently makes it clear that Russia and China will pay a price,” Clinton warned.


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I wonder what "price" she means?




posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Hopefully one day that woman will pay the price of her crimes



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Ranong
I see the wicked witch of the west is getting mouthy while she`s surrounded by her flying monkeys!...

“I do not believe that Russia and China are paying any price at all – nothing at all – for standing up on behalf of the Assad regime. The only way that will change is if every nation represented here directly and urgently makes it clear that Russia and China will pay a price,” Clinton warned.


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I wonder what "price" she means?



Wicked witch of the west?

Hahaha

Your funny......



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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it seems obvious that while over the short term assad can survive, he has no real future as leader of syria and the new system will probably turn away from russia and china because they helped him last so long. at least that'll be the story the survivors of this will be told; future syrians will write textbooks about how russia and china assisted assad in his brutal subjugation of them during their great war of liberty and freedom.

i think she's saying that eventually, their influence in syria will evaporate and they won't be able to force syrians to accomodate them in the manner that assad did.

the russians and chinese probably need to listen to the wise words of Yoda in this case:

'let go of what you fear to lose'

better yet maybe yoda should tell you.



since wicked witches have made an appearance in syria...lets give jedi some time.


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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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The truth of why China and Russia backs the HumanSlayer Assad is simply because they TOO, are humanSlayers.

They would do what that beast Assad had done in the face of dissidents and opposition to their rule and dictatorships - mowing down innocent UNARMED men, women and children with bullets, tanks, artillery, air power, etc.

It's not like it did not happen in China, even today. And tyrant Putin had shown his true colors with growing specific and targetted actions against dissidents and questioners of his policies.

Thus they worry that if they string up that animal Assad to face justice, one day they themselves will be strung up by the world as well.

But what is more critically worrisome is that they habour such inhuman thoughts - slaying of innocent men, women and children whom would only question their rule, and will continue to do so in the future, a matter of state and personal survival for power at the expense of fellow humanity.....

Are the CCP gov and Putin humans at all????.......



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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And riddle me this what would dictator Obama do if say faced with, I dunno Russia, and China, and Iran taking advantage of the dissent that is taking place right here in North America??? Say they were to come over here and start pouring money into occupy??, pouring money into militias that are already active across Amerika??? Say they were to start arming all of us who are not happy with Herr Harper in my homeland and Dictator Obama in the States.

Do you think we would still be protesters, or would we now be considered freedom fighters, or would we be terrorists?? Do you think our dictators sit on there hands, do they appease the people all the while losing what they hold so dear..... "POWER"

If those are your beliefs then take off your blinders, because the response would be crushing, and the best part is since we are the world police there's no one to save us, no one!!!

Yet so many like yourself sit here and castrate Assad for what he has done, but do you see it being any less violent when it happens here??? You say China and Russia would be no better than Humanslayer Assad, yet in our own countries we are faced in the future with the same threat, only difference is we don;t need the CIA, or Mossad, or SAS to stir us in a frenzy our people are pissed and rightfully so, our uprising would be pure and not falsified and created, yet the result the same.

I for one hope this site is still up and running, if and when our time comes, so I can ask you how crow tastes, because our way of life and system is fleeting our leaders hold on bye threads. And when the fist comes down if you think we will be spared by our government I think your gonna be surprised.

SaneThinking



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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Mrs and Mr Clinton belong to the phalanges behind unipolar world. The direction in geopolitics coined by Bush the senior, as the new world order. One happy world, led by socialistic ideals and strong international policing force.

Now, that rap really was not bought by their new buddies, Russia and China, which only saw there opportunity to grow and advance on the expense of totally illusioned (illuminati) US leadership, and its closest allies. Ducks in a line...

Early this year reality broke through, when President Putin poured tons of cold water on their neck, and said, Russia will never give up its sovereignty to anybody. China does not even need to say that.

Its a hard year for nwo-gang, when reality breaks through, and their dream of unipolar world shatters, and it is becoming clearer and clearer, that it actually is a multi-polar world.

Cold war was bi-polar. But now its multi-polar. Much more vicious and tougher world.

Add to this mess the crashing dollar and euro, the lost military technology to China - and you can see the effect of self-destruction only harming those, who want to self-destruct. Rest of the world just stands and looks by, and laughs. China, Russia, India - they are not crashing. And they are not giving up an inch of their sovereignty.

...Coming back to OP, and Mrs Clinton. She must feel now stood-up from a sure date. Slightly disappointed, slightly angry, tad hateful. "You will hear from me!" LOL. Too late for that. Who cares to listen to you...
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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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China has 1.3 billion people. Russia, admittedly, only has 143 million.

But Russia has a formidable understanding of weapons and tactics. They were letting off a-bombs and traveling into space over 40 years ago. But you can't ignore China. 1.3 billion people plus....

Even India, considered our friends, is more socialist in nature. They got 1 billion plus people. We sanctioned them in the 1990's because they were testing nuclear weapons and building an arsenal.
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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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You hit the nail on the head right there.

I bet Uncle Sam would do exactly the same if 100,000 or even 1.5 mil patrons rolled into say, New Orleans or denver with small arms and took over the joint. The lucky ones would catch a bullet or be vapourised and the rest would be off to GITMO.Domestic terrorist! THey would be lucky if the U.S gov allowed the red cross to throw a couple of band-aids over the fence let alone allow U.N "peace-keepers", or international sanctions to go ahead.
I can`t imagine "friends of america" screaming for N.A.T.O. to close the skies.
As for Hillary, well, im suffering from tech-ineptitous and I can`t upload the video of her mouthing of about Rus. and china but im sure its on every news channel. She is almost foaming at the mouth, and the rest of the talking heads are just about to start chanting H-I-L-L-A-R-Y, H-I-L-L-A-R-Y. Russia and China are right to boycott that disgraceful meeting of morons and mongerers.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Cut your BS and stick to the thread, please do not attempt to distract or derail the thread with hypothetical situations NOT happening in USA or the Free world.

When that comes, we, as one race - humanity, will deal with it, issue by issue. Any other way, we will only end up in circles and going right back to the first day of creation to resolve our present problems, a tactic many wild beast propagandists love to engage in to distract.

The issue is SYRIA Free people now, dying by the thousands, under the HumanSlayer Assad with support from his brethen animals China CCP govt and Tyrant Putin today.

The question is not what form of transitional govt can resolve the issues of Syria. The IMMEDIATE question now is WHO can STOP the bloodshed in Syria today.

The Free Syrian People and military had downed weapons with Kofi Anan's first UN request. Unfortunately, it was disregarded by the animal Assad, and HORRIFICALLY saw the further SLAUGHTERING of many thousands more innocent unarmed syrian men, women and children.

Even under the second UN request, that wild beast Assad CONTINUED to ignore and massacre more unarmed syrians. If you were a syrian, would you just meekly subject to such abominated destruction of yourself and your loved ones? Is there anymore trusl left in you with Assad and even the UN???!!!

Can the existing civil service and govt be trusted to maintain law and order? When they had NOT stopped the bloodshed even if they knew it was morally wrong to continue pandering to the animal Assad? At least the defectors, espacially the recent one by the general, had the MORAL COURAGE to walk away and tell the truth to the world on the regime's atrocities. I can't say the same for the cowardly self serving regime's govt

We, mankind, had failed our brothers and sisters in Syria.......

Russia had today issued a threat to start WW3 with the Free world instead of humanely ending the slaughter of our fellow humans in Syria. China had smartly kept silent, as is the inscrutable ways of the chinese civilisation for the lame excuse of plausible denial, while waving the veto card at UN security councils.

Thus, is humanity supposed to continue to engage in talks in swanky comfort while our fellow human brothers and sisters in Syria get slaughtered by the thousands daily?

I leave it up to your conscience, if any, to do what is necessary, if not for the world, at least for the thousands of free syrian people living in fear for their loved ones and children under the regime, over whether they will ever get to see another sunrise or breathe our planet's fresh morning air, something you take for granted in your ingrained hatred of democracy, rule of law, and unsupported beliefs of alphabetical agencies involved in convoluted insane plots.

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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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The way you replied shows you cant handle a rational conversation.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Hope CNN doesn't have too tell you how to put your pants on in the morning as well, yeah Assad the butcher, LoL

Quick question what you gonna call Obama then, will he be humanslayer as well, when he uses the new provisions in the NDAA, to execute americans and north americans in the name of maintaining stability.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by SaneThinking
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
 


Hope CNN doesn't have too tell you how to put your pants on in the morning as well, yeah Assad the butcher, LoL

Quick question what you gonna call Obama then, will he be humanslayer as well, when he uses the new provisions in the NDAA, to execute americans and north americans in the name of maintaining stability.



As the saying goes, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree...

see: en.wikipedia.org...

and from source:

Initial diplomatic reports from western countries stated that 1,000 were killed.[2][3] Subsequent estimates vary, with the lower estimates claiming that at least 10,000 Syrian citizens were killed,[4] while others put the number at 20,000 (Robert Fisk),[1] or 40,000 (Syrian Human Rights Committee).[5][6] About 1,000 Syrian soldiers were killed during the operation and large parts of the old city were destroyed. Alongside such few events as the Black September Massacre in Jordan,[7] the attack has been described as one of "the single deadliest acts by any Arab government against its own people in the modern Middle East".[8] The vast majority of the victims were civilians.[9]


I'm not saying that this piece of history recorded above is definitely the case in this instance, but how can you definititively say the new Assad is not the butcher?

The "Arab Spring" brings about a perfect opportunity for him to thin out the population so to speak...and now hide behind the cover of China/Russia, or, on the other hand, the evil NATO/UN peace-keepers....

Why would China and Russia support such atrocitities?

If you know otherwise, please submit.....








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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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I do hope people realize countries are not the enemy. Corrupt governments with their own agendas and so called enemies is not exclusive to the US. The people in these countries are in the same boat as every person on the planet. Next time you hear someone saying we should attack < insert country >, just remind them of the fact most people have the penalty of death if they do not pledge their lives and everything for their country (leaders).

Its funny when the US is no better than any other country. We just have the tech and funds to keep our, not so pretty business, from seeing the light of day.

Sometimes I wish the economy would just tank hard. The sooner it crashes, the sooner we can find a better, more equal system. Hopefully get some honest people to make sure it won't happen again. I won't believe every person who gains a little power turns into an ego maniac. I have faith in the human race.


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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Death tolls as posted are for both sides of the conflict, and I LoL at Assad the butcher as tounge and cheek, to the other butchers I.E Obama and the NATO led countries.

And I don't back Russia and China's stance but I do think that this is not cut and dry Assad just killing his people, this is Assad fighting off the wests proxy occupation of his country through foriegn intervention. This is "us" the west fighting against the Syrian government in a great power struggle that is ripe with propoganda, on both sides.

But whats lost in this is what exactly happened to Ghadaffi he was not willing to toe company line and was executed by the west, Assad not a fan of Amerikan intervention, isn't willing to lie down and let his country be taken over by terrorists, or foriegn funded insurgents, or Al-CIA-da, or Muslim brotherhood. Whats lost as I said before is we created this we gave the green light for terrorists to attack any ruling party in the guise of providing them with democracy, for the people. These freedom fighters who only a yr ago were known bye another name "terrorist" are now funded and trained to overthrow those who won't roll over for Amerika.

It's pathetic to see Hillary Clintons rhetoric and vitrol she spews, arming terrorists to fight a ruling authority seems wrong to me just the same as russia continuing to arm the gov. But at least one has legitimate power, while the other, factions of terrorists loosly controled by no one but the foriegn money keeping them going.

So in turn yeah I dispise the deaths of innocent people, but I also dispise the proxy BS that is going on over there, the FSA killing there own to draw the ire of the world, assad shelling villages, anyway you look at it there is no right. only bushels full of wrongs. But I am not quick to condem a government that is fighting a non discript enemy of quite likely Amerikan funded terrorists whom only a short while ago were in our sights, now target practice with those same sights they were formally under.

Though I'm sure there are those in Syria that want Bashar Al Assad to be gone, yet there are just as many or more who were living just fine under his rule. As he said today if the whole country wanted him gone he would have been gone long ago. 16 months and still only small pockets of resistance in "rebel" controlled areas. All of which are close to border towns easily infiltrated by outside forces.

Hence my skeptism, and unwillingness to jump on board the bomb the hell outta Syria bus, and as well like I said in previous posts, Obama, Harper, Brown, Hollande any one of these fools would make Assad look like an angel placed in the same position of having foriegn funded, trained, and armed insurgents threatening to overthrow your government, when it isn't the popular opinion amongst the majority. Where crazy as it sounds I'm sure if SHTF here, the majority would be behind us, we would be united in protest, yet I'm sure the guns would still come out if we all asked our dictators to go, and you best be damn sure they themselves even facing massive oppositon would hold there ground all the same.

So to me asking Assad to step down, not fight, to turn tale and run, would be just what is wanted, by NATO and Amerika, not the majority of his people. It would be giving in to the hegemony that runs this world and wishes to unsurp power, and trap it in a vacuum, for only a few to ever enjoy. Thats my opinion and thoughts drawn out and shared with the world.....

SaneThinking
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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
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Cut your BS and stick to the thread, please do not attempt to distract or derail the thread with hypothetical situations NOT happening in USA or the Free world.


Give me proof Assad is the only one slaughtering people in Syria and not some activists proof who cannot be identified. Every piece of information that comes out of Syria can not be verified.


When that comes, we, as one race - humanity, will deal with it, issue by issue. Any other way, we will only end up in circles and going right back to the first day of creation to resolve our present problems, a tactic many wild beast propagandists love to engage in to distract.


We as one race is laughable. It will never happen. We do not have the freedom to allow it to happen. Imagine if you tried, your leaders would start slaughtering your sorry butt.


The issue is SYRIA Free people now, dying by the thousands, under the HumanSlayer Assad with support from his brethen animals China CCP govt and Tyrant Putin today.


yeah, and most Syrians apparently support Assad unlike the minnos who are splashed all over our televisions on a weekly basis. Anyway, why is it any of the USAs business in the first place?


The question is not what form of transitional govt can resolve the issues of Syria. The IMMEDIATE question now is WHO can STOP the bloodshed in Syria today.


So I guess letting Saudi Arabia arm the rebels is going to stop the bloodshed? BTW, the Saudis are a close friend to the USA.


The Free Syrian People and military had downed weapons with Kofi Anan's first UN request. Unfortunately, it was disregarded by the animal Assad, and HORRIFICALLY saw the further SLAUGHTERING of many thousands more innocent unarmed syrian men, women and children.


Again, this is just heresay. You have no evidence what so ever apart from a few mainstream reports which once again cannot be verified by any western media outlet. The only report that I hear anyone mentioned was the storming of a media outlet by REBELS.


Even under the second UN request, that wild beast Assad CONTINUED to ignore and massacre more unarmed syrians. If you were a syrian, would you just meekly subject to such abominated destruction of yourself and your loved ones? Is there anymore trusl left in you with Assad and even the UN???!!!


maybe the rebels should stop using innocent civilians as human shields by hiding in populated areas...


Can the existing civil service and govt be trusted to maintain law and order? When they had NOT stopped the bloodshed even if they knew it was morally wrong to continue pandering to the animal Assad? At least the defectors, espacially the recent one by the general, had the MORAL COURAGE to walk away and tell the truth to the world on the regime's atrocities. I can't say the same for the cowardly self serving regime's govt

We, mankind, had failed our brothers and sisters in Syria.......

Russia had today issued a threat to start WW3 with the Free world instead of humanely ending the slaughter of our fellow humans in Syria. China had smartly kept silent, as is the inscrutable ways of the chinese civilisation for the lame excuse of plausible denial, while waving the veto card at UN security councils.

Thus, is humanity supposed to continue to engage in talks in swanky comfort while our fellow human brothers and sisters in Syria get slaughtered by the thousands daily?

I leave it up to your conscience, if any, to do what is necessary, if not for the world, at least for the thousands of free syrian people living in fear for their loved ones and children under the regime, over whether they will ever get to see another sunrise or breathe our planet's fresh morning air, something you take for granted in your ingrained hatred of democracy, rule of law, and unsupported beliefs of alphabetical agencies involved in convoluted insane plots.


Know what, your entire post is nothing more than bias
, you obviously just believe everything you are told by your masters and that makes you a very small minded person. Its people like you who cause problems when there shouldn't be. BTW you are not a seeker of truth. Your far from it.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 04:51 PM
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The war against foreign policy sounds more like it. If they don't bend over for the UN, the UN will make you bend over in other ways.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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It so so difficult to believe in any threats about china or Russia in any measure
when we have them in our Pearl Harbor waters for war games,. and we have every store in our
US of A selling china stuff.



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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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Here is a question: How many of you "Assad is evil" lunatics have been to Syria since the fighting has erupted or have friends which have been to Syria since then? I am going to guess none, or almost none. Luckily a friend of my family's is originally from Syria and lives here but has visited the nation within the past 6 months. She is not an extremist of any sort, mostly non-political and prefers to deal with what confronts her family - nothing more. According to her the situation on the ground in Syria is dire but it is not anything like the Western media is reporting.

After watching American news, going to Syria, and then coming back to see more news, she has said it is absolutely astonishing how they lie so blatantly. Her sympathies are with al-Assad; not because she finds him to be a great leader, but only because the ones trying to tear down Syria are much, much worse. It is the Muslim Brotherhood in a coalition with Al-Qaeda, working together to overturn the government and are using the Western media to manipulate the minds of Americans and Europeans. The innocent people of Syria are caught in the middle of this orchestrated uprising by Islamic fanatics. One of the leading causes of Islamist anger against al-Assad is that he, just like his father, is part of a sect of Islam in Syria which supports the Baath Party. Their anger against this Islamic sect is that it basically treats the Syrian Christian community as friends and does not suppress or abuse them.

Bashar al-Assad is not trying to slaughter his people, he is trying to maintain order and route out this sect of fanatics financed by the West. The people of Syria, most of them save 20% or so, do not want al-Assad's government to fall because the result will be absolute chaos. This is not to say Syrians love al-Assad, just that they prefer him over the sect of blood thirsty Islamists.

All people who believe in national sovereignty should be applauding al-Assad, not condemning him. The West is trying to overturn his nation, butcher his people, and support a group which will suppress the large Christian minority there. So long as Russia can keep the West out of Syria by its indirect condemnation of intervention, and al-Assad maintain his spine of steel, there is hope for everyone yearning to breath free.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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They too are human slayers? Oh c'mon, who used a drone today to murder 'suspects' in a foreign country?

As soon as Pakistan opened the border you are back in there murdering people with drones. Yeah America is really crusin for a brusin.

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