This was a reply of mine elsewhere, but I'm giving it its' own thread, because I consider it important, and because it is actually a different
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
reply to post by MidnightTide
That is the problem, a significant proportion of Muslims practicing Islam DO believe in those violent passages. Just your post alone would target you
You will have to prove your comment. You will gave to prove that an atser will be targeted for death over his comment by Muslims.
I believe MidnightTide is correct. I think a lot of Muslims (particularly in Pakistan) would
want to kill me for what I have written.
I have felt in fear for my life from Muslims before.
However, the reason why they would do that, is because they would falsely associate themselves as individuals, with Islam as the overall religion. I
have reached a point, where I do not blame Islam as an overall religion, for the behaviour of its' individual followers.
I believe that there are a lot of belligerent, aggressive, and even murderous Muslims in the world. They would be entirely willing to kill anyone who
would reprimand them for said behaviour, as being unworthy of God. I also know, however, and have seen on this forum, that there are a great many
Muslims who are positive, compassionate, and principled people as well; and they do not behave in that manner.
So I meant what I said, when I said I was not criticising Islam as a religion, but individual Muslims.
I have now taken the time to study the writings of three different religions; Christianity, Hinduism, and (to a lesser extent, admittedly) Islam.
What I have found, is that Islam's Prophet was correct when stating that God is one, but that Muslims misinterpret that statement. What Mohammed
meant (and he also clarifies this in the Qu'ran as well) is that God can be worshipped by different people in different ethnic groups throughout the
world, there will still be found persistent or universal characteristics of the divine attitude; and those characteristics are, as well as moral
restraint, love, compassion, humanism, and a desire for justice.
So I believe that the contemporary Muslims who say that it is impossible for a person to know God outside Islam, and that everyone who exists outside
Islam should be killed, are wrong. If you look at the Hindu scriptures you will find confirmation of the same positive divine characteristics which
Mohammed talks about in the earlier passages of the Qu'ran; and within the (admittedly very limited, in canon terms at least) words of Jesus you find
the same attitude, and the same values being expressed.
A religion of hatred, fear, and violence, is not a religion of God. Islam itself, however, is not such a religion in its' entirety. There is much
good within it; it is simply that false material was added to it as well, and then the equally false doctrine of abrogation was used, in order to
justify said material. So I believe that any Muslim who would murder me as an infidel, is in fact an infidel themselves.
I do not take any one single scripture, as evidence of what I consider to be the personality of God. I take the common elements which I have
been able to find from several of them, as well as my own contact with Kali Ma, and the way she has treated me, as such evidence. What she has told
me, and what I have been able to deduce from these three sets of scripture, is that rage, hatred, and fear, should never be emotional states which
motivate a person's actions. That, by definition, rules out murdering those considered infidels, or those considered to have committed
The main reason why I love this song, is because Islam has been consistently a taboo subject among virtually everyone I've known, for as long as I've
been alive. The thing I've been discovering though, is that the reason why Islam doesn't get spoken about, is because of the intolerance and ugliness
of many of its adherents.
I won't lie. I think it's entirely possible that individual Muslims
still will overrun this planet, and yes, they probably would kill
me for writing this if they could, because they don't understand, and they won't stop and try and think about it. Many of them do wish to supplant or
destroy every other culture and religion that exists. They think they are divinely entitled or even commanded to do so, and I consider that a false
belief. However, in that attitude, they follow roughly the same behaviour pattern as Christians, albeit to a somewhat more extreme degree. Christian
militancy and fundamentalism does exist in America; but we need to remember that the nature of Jesus Christ himself, is and was diametrically opposed
to that of 98% of so-called Christians.
Islam is a religion which is defiled by many of its' followers. There is much positive material there; but for the most part, you won't see it
by observing Muslims. The faith itself can be good; it is some of the people who are not.
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