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Did Republicans deliberately crash the US economy?

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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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I think the real question is what else are they going to do at the populace expense to get our Great commander and chief 'Barack Hussein Obama' out of office?

www.guardian.co.uk...



In recent days, Democrats have started coming out and saying publicly what many have been mumbling privately for years – Republicans are so intent on defeating President OBama for re-election that they are purposely sabotaging the country's economic recovery. These charges are now being levied by Democrats such as Senate majority leader Harry Reid and Obama's key political adviser, David Axelrod


REPUBLICANS should be ashamed at themselves for what they have done to the people of this great continent in the last 20 years!




posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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No, the banks did with predatory mortgage lending practices along with unregulated derivatives.
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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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so democrats are blaming their biggest opponents for ruining the country?

haven't heard that one before and i'm sure it isn't remotely bias


both parties should feel equally ashamed for what they have done to this country



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by paganini
so democrats are blaming their biggest opponents for ruining the country?

haven't heard that one before and i'm sure it isn't remotely bias


both parties should feel equally ashamed for what they have done to this country





haven't heard that one before

Really !
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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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crash is the wrong word

STALLED

is what they did.

they didn't support ideas they have in the past, because they want to win the white house

at your expense

the crash came from the deregulation of the mortgage backed derivatives industry, and allowing them to make a profit when it failed through the default swaps, taking away any chance they would excercise any judgment in how much risk to take on

what the republicans did was stall the recovery

that's treason to me



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
crash is the wrong word

STALLED

is what they did.

they didn't support ideas they have in the past, because they want to win the white house

at your expense

the crash came from the deregulation of the mortgage backed derivatives industry, and allowing them to make a profit when it failed through the default swaps, taking away any chance they would excercise any judgment in how much risk to take on

what the republicans did was stall the recovery

that's treason to me


Now let's not start tarring the Republicans with the treason brush...

...when there's more than enough treason committed by both sides.



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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Anyone who takes sides for or against either party is under mind control. OP, you are willfully ignorant of the fact that both parties are responsible. The democrats take power and they follow CFR policy until they start to stink. Then the republicans take over and do the same. The population follows the political bias programming that has been laid down thick. This keeps the people in constant battle against one another defender their respective party of crooks.

You need to wake up, OP. You are a tool.



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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Please, let us not sugar coat who is at fought here, or whose to blame, it is so blatantly obvious!



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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They been whispering that for years?

So basically they are saying- "we took on something bigger than we could handle, and we blame them for it".

You know what- ****em all. What good have any of our officials been? ANY? NONE!

ALL of govt has been hurting the people more then helping them.

Their lack of personal responsibility is so baffling it makes me wonder if people really arent robots.
Programmed not to see or say anything their command lists tells them not to.

I never believed in political parties because they create madness.

I just want them to get their stuff together, because they have yet to impress anyone.

Political cleansing needs to happen. Throw em all out, and elect new leaders by simple methods, and try to undo all the harm that they have created. All those that held office before would be exempt from holding office ever again. It also provides new jobs and a chance at a more stable govt.


..or the pitchforks work.

whatever works for you.



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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It wasn't so much as the Republicans as it was the banks. The whole mortgage mess was made much worse by the actions of the banks.

I know for a fact, the banks were acting in a way which would cost them more money in the future. The only reasonable explanation is that they were willing to take a major loss on the homes because they would get something better in the future.



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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Already a thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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Yes, you are right. Let's not sugar coat it. It is the people who are to blame. The people who have allowed themselves to be blinded by the bread and circuses of their tormentors. It is the people who have blinded themsleves with Internet porn and the cult of self.

Please define your terms that they may be countered. But you have none and so you speak vaguely.

It would be easy for me to fall into a partisan mindset and begin enumerating what Obama has done wrong. Six trillion in debt that he as CINC could have stopped is a good place to start. Yes, much of that is what the white house states to be programs and policies of the previous administration. Yet, as CINC Obama could stop it if he really wanted to. But he does not. When Obama is gone the next administration will use the laws that he enacted to form an even more draconian system and that administration will incur yet more crushing debt.

Ever hear of Operation Paperclip? That is what is at work and that is the source of the deception. Each administration chips away at freedom in anticipation of the future Reich. It is like dictatorship musical chairs. When the music stops who will take the seat of the great dictator? Will it be a republican or a democrat? It only matters if you are a fool. So stop being a fool, Op.
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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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BY that logic the Democrats crashed the economy and stalled Bush attempts to "fix it"

funny how that works after all 2000 to 2006 the economy was fair but only after the left got in to power and held the house and the senate things fell apart.

There you go.



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by LastProphet527
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REPUBLICANS should be ashamed at themselves for what they have done to the people of this great continent in the last 20 years!


Really, so it wasn't the choices that Obama and a majority Democrat Congress and House did that caused the lost of 500,000 jobs per month since Obama got in office and started to implement his ideas?...


The lies that leftwingers have to tell... BTW, I have no sympathy for the majority of RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) that are part of the Republican Party, but the truth is that the country is in the #hole it is now because of Obama, YOUR great commander-in-chief, and Democrats as well as other leftwingers who are part of the Obamatron council of Czars...



posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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They probably did...they sure crashed the Ron Paul campaign.

2ND LINE -are The1 % all republicans?
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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by hadriana
They probably did...they sure crashed the Ron Paul campaign.

2ND LINE -are The1 % all republicans?
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How old are you 5? To believe this you have to be extremely ignorant. A majority of Republicans are middle class and even poor, and contrary to the claims made by leftwingers there are PLENTY of minorities who are Republican.

BTW, hadriana, why do you think that OBama, and the entire Obama admistration have been talking in favor of the OWS movement, yet they were against the Tea Party?... you think it is because of this claim that you, the OWS movement are the 99%?...



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posted on Jun, 13 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by LastProphet527


our Great commander and chief 'Barack Hussein Obama




Maybe yours,but not mine. Hes the President,and a bad one at that !!!!



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by LastProphet527
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Please, let us not sugar coat who is at fought here, or whose to blame, it is so blatantly obvious!





It's called rowing the economy.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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Tough to say.'
What do you call running up the bill for 8 years, then crying about how it must be paid for, at the exact same time you dilligently prohibit any attempt to pay for it???

I call it politics. Sick and destructive, but politics none the less.



posted on Jun, 14 2012 @ 03:03 AM
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I suppose I should be more infuriated about the economic state of affairs but the US' dynamic economy with its rollercoaster ups and downs are are how fortunes are made and lost. For those of us who do not play that game there is mostly the losses that get spread around to bail out the big boys when their cookie crumbles and they are only left with their multi-million dollar bonuses and a company operating in the red, even after eating up their employees' retirement fund. The other side for the non-player is they do not make the big score but don't take the big loss, in fact even see a little gain, but still get to chip-in to tidy up the mess in the aftermath.

I should be upset that I gave up a house that I truly loved and had intended to live in in my retirement years, seeing the mortgage paid-off when that time rolled around. It just didn't happen that way at all. I got a steal of a deal on a ranch-style county club home in an area depressed after a military base closure set from Bush Sr. times. I bought the home in the Clinton years after it had been on the market for ages.

The mortgage fire that was lit during Dubya's days caused that home to skyrocket and was perfect time to sell my little condo I lived in previously. I watched the value going up, up like a balloon inflating. It seemed only obvious it was going to eventually burst. Other people I knew bought in my area after seeing the deal I got, buying later they paid more than I did but still got a good price and saw their home value going up. They did what many Americans did then and refinanced their home to cash-in on their new equity. I saw the mortgage rates going down and refinanced to take advantage of lower interest and change my loan to a fifteen-year term cutting the time in half.

I didn't like the direction our country seemed to be taking and around 2004 began looking for a change of scenery outside the national borders. By '05 I found a place I liked and began building a retirement home in that land. Soon management came to us with a sad story that the economy was going to be slowing down and they were looking for volunteers to take advantage of early-out pension with a decent separation bonus to part ways. I planned to stay working another ten years but really had no obligation to stay and a retirement home that was ready to move in to. My co-workers all had their refinanced mortgages and new car payments to keep them in the grind for the next few years so I offered to sacrifice myself though I was much younger than most of the others I worked with.

I hated Bush's policies but I have mixed feelings about him after all this. By mid '06 I was retired at age 53, sold my home a few months later in '07 for about three times the price I paid for it. I ended up in a place with boring year-around spring-like weather and a cost-of-living that made my reduced pension seem almost lavish. I never ended up a millionaire, but almost. I couldn't stay around to live in that nice home I had bought during Clinton's administration. And after I had taken all my belongings I cared to keep down to the tropical latitudes a few months later I heard that balloon burst loudly but in the distance in '08. Did the Republicans crash the economy then?

That year I heard all about this freshman Democratic Senator that was running for President and had a lot of people all excited about him. I was happy to hear that Bush would be going along his merry way and the US was going to once again be in good hands. I have no first-hand experience what happened later, it's all hearsay to me as I haven set foot in the US since '07 when I went back to sign some papers on that nice house I had to leave behind. A lot of folks seem to express some disappointment that this Barry Obama was not able to fix things back up and perhaps even made a bigger mess of the whole deal. I honestly don't know how valid their feeling are.

This year I was rather pleased to hear about a man I voted for in '88 was running again. I remember it was the one time I voted on a third-party ticket to try to elect him but this time he was running as a Republican. Over 20 years later and this man still had the same message and it was music to my ears. It appears now he will not be elected this time either but his message is finally becoming popular. It seems we will never know if he could have pulled it all back together again but many people were really hoping to give him the opportunity to try. Now it seems there is no candidate who really has people excited other than that little old doctor Congressman who they say hasn't a chance now. It may be a close election coming up because very few people have anyone left they especially like, just a couple of candidates with a D or an R after their name to make it seem like there is a real choice.

It seems someone crashed the economy a few years back and everyone in recent times just seem to be dragging their feet to keep it from recovering. Perhaps?




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