Hillary's Little Startup: How the U.S. Is Using Technology to Aid Syria's Rebels

Hillary's Little Startup: How the U.S. Is Using Technology to Aid Syria's Rebels

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Abu Ghassan looks more like a hipster than a revolutionary. Decked out in a pink shirt and black jeans, he clutches a pack of cigarettes and begins to talk hesitantly about his activities. He is eager to get back to the beleaguered city of Homs in Syria but quickly warms to questions about how he learned to fight Bashar Assad with an AK-47, a video camera and the Internet—and how Americans helped turn him into a cyberwarrior.

Abu Ghassan (not his real name) told TIME on June 8 that he has been

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Two Senators Say U.S. Should Arm Syrian Rebels

This whole Syria scenario is going exactly as most of us figured it would. What surprises me is how blatant the West is acting with their psy op against the Syrian regime.

Not only are we arming the rebels (the real terrorists) with financial aid and weapons, but we are giving them high tech support as well. If Russia provides countries like Iran or Syria with similar aid they are labled as aiding terrorism, while we are doing the exact same thing.

It's very typical for our leaders to hire terrorists to do our dirty work in the name of freedom and liberation..."let's just tell everyone it's to help the people of Syria for humane reasons" when we all know that is a load of BS.

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When historians look back on these decades, they will say the lynchpin that made it all possible was the fall of Iraq.
Iraq was tightly controlled and possessed the largest armed forces. After the first Gulf War, all attempts to change from within were crushed with Saddam's iron fist. It took the Western powers to physically dislodge his hold on power. The rest of the ME looked at Iraq forming a democracy, and the seeds were planted. Turmoil and upheaval followed.
Of course the West is going to be intervening, they turned over the soil for the seeds to be planted. Nothing wrong with a little watering and weeding here and there to keep things growing.

Yup, the US arms terrorists when it is to their benefit, and meanwhile if you didnt pay for a parking ticket on time you get droned.

It is a fact that the USA is arming the terrorists in Syria and intervening as they always do which leads to 911 style blowbacks.

Look at what NATO did in Libya. The MSM is not reporting it anymore because their agenda is complete and to hell with what happened to the country. Now they have terrorists running around the street freely and they are bombing US embassies 911 style as a result of blowback.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
When historians look back on these decades, they will say the lynchpin that made it all possible was the fall of Iraq.
Iraq was tightly controlled and possessed the largest armed forces. After the first Gulf War, all attempts to change from within were crushed with Saddam's iron fist. It took the Western powers to physically dislodge his hold on power. The rest of the ME looked at Iraq forming a democracy, and the seeds were planted. Turmoil and upheaval followed.
Of course the West is going to be intervening, they turned over the soil for the seeds to be planted. Nothing wrong with a little watering and weeding here and there to keep things growing.

You are practicing revisionist history.

Iraq didn't fall. It was attacked. Once Sadam was out of power, the locals renewed their feuds. Hey, it wasn't like THEY got rid of Sadam, so they had no stake in the country. Iraq doesn't have a democracy. They have a bizarre multi-sect power sharing scheme thrust upon them by the west.

The start of the Arab Spring can be attributed to Mohamed Bouazizi.
en.wikipedia.org...

You need the rebellion to be fought by the citizens. People need to be stakeholders, not handed the keys to the country by the west. Sure the west can help where the citizens lack capability.

Compare the fall of Libya to the fall or Iraq. One was claimed to be doable on the cheap, and one was actually done on the cheap.

I'm still waiting for that cheap Iraqi oil!

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And then 911 happened as a result of US interference...

In the process, the Obama Administration has tiptoed across an invisible line. Washington has said it will not actively support the Syrian opposition in its bid to oust Assad. Officially, the U.S. says it abides by the U.N. process led by Kofi Annan and does not condone arms sales to opposition groups as long as there are U.N. observers in Syria. Nevertheless, as U.S. officials have revealed to Time, the Obama Administration has been providing media-technology training and support to Syrian dissidents by way of small nonprofits like the Institute for War & Peace Reporting and Freedom House. Viral videos of alleged atrocities, like the footage Abu Ghassan produced, have made Assad one of the most reviled men on the planet, helping turn the Arab League against him and embarrassing his few remaining allies almost daily. “If the [U.S.] government is involved in Syria, the government isn’t going to take direct responsibility for it,” says Lawrence Lessig, director of Harvard’s Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics. “The tools that you deploy in Internet freedom interfere with tools deployed by an existing government, and that can be perceived as an act of aggression.” Read more: world.time.com...

Evil Amerika!!!

Arming the rebels with what"

Webmasters?

Right forget about Turkey,Saudi,Kuwait,Qatar arming the rebels and forget about Russia and Iran providing weapons to kill those rebels!

And forget about the Syrian Contractors getting paid by the Assad regime!

Evil Evil Amerika!!!

What a load of crap.

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USA has a history of the one of the most interventions out of any country and meddling in other peoples affairs.

It is for this reason 911 happened.

USA needs to stay out of Syria.

Why are you so interested in USA interfering with Syria?

Are you willing to spend your money on the drones to kill more people?

Are you wanting a terrorist regime like when US Led NATO 'liberated' Libya?

Libya is worse off because of our intervention.

Arming the rebels with what"

Weapons and it has been shown in other threads.

The USA has a history of supporting this type of action. Remember the CIA giving weapons to the Taliban?

Right forget about Turkey,Saudi,Kuwait,Qatar arming the rebels and forget about Russia and Iran providing weapons to kill those rebels!

It is their regional differences and they can sort it out how they want to . Last I checked USA was not a neighbor of Syria...

Why isn't the USA interfering with the Mexican drug cartels killing right ON OUR BORDERS?

Why is the USA so interested in interfering with a country a thousand miles away?

I like how people think America sits ideally by while the world continues to spin. No. America is just as busy as any other nation.

I guess it is a world shattering thing for some people to find that America protects its interest and doesnt take up where the sun dont shine.

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Evil Amerika!!!

Arming the rebels with what"

Arming the rebels with weapons, financial aid, and intelligence.

Have you been hiding in a cave with you eyes closed and ears plugged for the last year?

I know you have seen the threads on this including the one I linked to in my OP so your blind ignorance impresses no one but your fellow jingos.

Originally posted by gariac

Originally posted by TinfoilTP
When historians look back on these decades, they will say the lynchpin that made it all possible was the fall of Iraq.
Iraq was tightly controlled and possessed the largest armed forces. After the first Gulf War, all attempts to change from within were crushed with Saddam's iron fist. It took the Western powers to physically dislodge his hold on power. The rest of the ME looked at Iraq forming a democracy, and the seeds were planted. Turmoil and upheaval followed.
Of course the West is going to be intervening, they turned over the soil for the seeds to be planted. Nothing wrong with a little watering and weeding here and there to keep things growing.

You are practicing revisionist history.

Iraq didn't fall. It was attacked. Once Sadam was out of power, the locals renewed their feuds. Hey, it wasn't like THEY got rid of Sadam, so they had no stake in the country. Iraq doesn't have a democracy. They have a bizarre multi-sect power sharing scheme thrust upon them by the west.

The start of the Arab Spring can be attributed to Mohamed Bouazizi.
en.wikipedia.org...

You need the rebellion to be fought by the citizens. People need to be stakeholders, not handed the keys to the country by the west. Sure the west can help where the citizens lack capability.

Compare the fall of Libya to the fall or Iraq. One was claimed to be doable on the cheap, and one was actually done on the cheap.

I'm still waiting for that cheap Iraqi oil!

Iraq was locked under an iron grip by Saddam. All rebellion was squashed under his yoke after the first gulf war. He used helicopters and gas on the kurds which caused the UN to place no fly zones along with sanctions. Even under the weight of UN observation and control of the skies, he was still able to squash all rebellion. Then he was physically removed by millitary might. He was the strongest in the region of all the dictators. The day he fell Kaddafi seen the light and plead with the US to allow him to make amends. He seen the writing on the wall the day Saddam fell, too bad most others can't.

Saddam was the example of why rebellion was not an option in these regimes up until he was removed, then he became the example of change that can happen.

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What about Russia and Iran arming the opposition then? It's the same thing really. I personally believe we should keep our nose where it belongs, but this is turning Syria into a friggen crater...Russia is just trying to protect their interest, they don't care about Syria or Assad. As for Iran they do the exact opposite of whatever NATO and the West do...

Everyone says they are "armed gangs" that are trying to over throw Assad. That is because thats what Assad told them to say, I am not really buying it...

EDIT: Rebels are armed gangsters in Assad's eyes..

-SAP-

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He used helicopters and gas on the kurds which caused the UN to place no fly zones along with sanctions.

The same gas chemical weapons that America provided to Saddam against the Iranians.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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He used helicopters and gas on the kurds which caused the UN to place no fly zones along with sanctions.

The same gas chemical weapons that America provided to Saddam against the Iranians.

Still making excuses for Saddam?
Dude, get over it, he is long gone.

Using leftover gas from a bygone war to exterminate your own citizens is genocide. Saddam was guilty of genocide, plain and simple open and shut case.

Using gas in a war is just against the geneva conventions, of which neither Iraq nor Iran cared about. Iran used human waves of unarmed children to clear the minefields ahead of their troops as an example.
Iran at the time was proxy supplied by the USSR, Iraq at the time was proxy supplied by the US. It was the Cold War Era. They duked it out with no regard to geneva conventions. Who sold what to who is of no regard and never has been.