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Originally posted by watchesfromwall
reply to post by aBeneGesserit
Yes, the article is kind of like a "no duh" moment!
However, it depends on where you live, I suppose.
I'm in the US, and very few cars are on diesel now. It's mostly transport semi-trucks here, I don't know, actually I have a hard time remembering diesel autos in the US.
It is much worse when I travel overseas, and especially to certain countries.
I can definitely smell and choke on the fumes, and at times. perhaps dizzy enough from them, see them.
You are so right that it is so much worse than cigarette passive smoking!
Originally posted by rickymouse
reply to post by Xertious
That's the problem, everything we are doing is upping the cancer and diabetes rates. Neither are caused by being fat but being fat .
Originally posted by aBeneGesserit
It's about bloody time!!!
I've been waiting years for someone in the media to actually print the truth about the crap that comes out from exhausts, whether it's diesel or petrol.
"It's on the same order of magnitude as passive smoking," said Kurt Straif, director of the IARC department that evaluates cancer risks..." Bull!!! It far outweighs passive smoking.
What I've always said is " you'll get more crap on your lungs, standing at a bus stop for 10 minutes, than you will standing next to a smoker."
Stand in an enclosed space with a smoker and you'll stink of smoke, you may well get a bad cough but you won't die - stand in an enclosed space with a car running and you'll be dead within, what? half an hour? It's a flickin' no brainer!!!
Did people really think that long-term, every day of your lives exposure to vehicle fumes didn't cause fatal illness?
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Some questions -
1/ This is the WHO reporting through the MSM - can it be trusted in the first place??
2/ What are the downstream effects likely to be?? Who is really going to benefit from this?
Lp2 Cancer deaths in 1970 and in 1997
The unaltered or crude cancer death rate per 100,000 US population for the year 1970 is 162.8. Multiply this rate by the US population of that year, 203,302,031 and divide by 100,000, we obtained the total cancer deaths of that year, 330,972. Divide this number by the number of days in a year, we obtain the average number of Americans who died of cancer in 1970 at 907.
Twenty years later, the unaltered cancer death rate for the year 1990 is 505,322, the total population, 248,709,873. The cancer death rate per 100,000 population rose to 203.2. The daily cancer death rate was 1384.
Another six years later, the unaltered estimated total cancer deaths for 1996 was 554,740, the estimated population for that year is 264,755,000. The cancer death rate per 100,000 population for 1996 is 209.5.The daily cancer death rate rose to 1520.
The total number of unaltered cancer deaths in 1997 is 564,800; the US population was 268,921,733. The cancer death rate per 100,000 population for 1997 was 210.0. The number of cancer death per day was 1547.
Diesel engines are manufactured in two-stroke and four-stroke versions. They were originally used as a more efficient replacement for stationary steam engines. Since the 1910s they have been used in submarines and ships. Use in locomotives, trucks, heavy equipment and electric generating plants followed later. In the 1930s, they slowly began to be used in a few automobiles. Since the 1970s, the use of diesel engines in larger on-road and off-road vehicles in the USA increased. As of 2007, about 50 percent of all new car sales in Europe are diesel.