Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by LastProphet527
reply to post by satron

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We all no America will be the country to end this world, it wont be the Muslims, it wont be Koreans, it wont be the Chinese, it will be this nasty continent that ends life for man as we no it.

Out of all the races in this world, God and the heavens look down on America more than any other continent in the history of life it self. America will go down and be written in the text of history as the most disgusting continent that ever governed a populace in times in which growth just stopped.

When will America grow up?

It’s disgraceful now days to call your self an American, just utterly and blatantly…NASTY!

Its bad enough america has never contributed nothing to this earth as a whole, and when i say nothing i mean absulutly nothing...but 2 atomic bombs dropped on countries, and endless wars using more bombs on humans with sticks and stones.
It would be so unpatriotic for a human to be patriotic to a continent like this,really would.

edit on 10-6-2012 by LastProphet527 because: (no reason given)

Well, I disagree you saying America hasn't done anything for the world, there's plenty, but there is a point where you have to reflect on what you've accomplished compared to the suffering caused in the process. Look at the patent office submissions, we are patenting more things than we ever have. I do believe there is more we could do, but I'm afraid the people with the money are afraid to let go of the reigns because they are positioning their self with all this money for something.

Money is the problem and it's the problem in this fiasco. Meanwhile we are generating a lot of hate towards us, and what they might do to retaliate could justify to our rulers to tighten the vice grip on it's citizens. It's happening.

I don't mind being an American, but I do mind the image my country is painting of me.

Anyways, you've got a lot of ideas while painting them in broad strokes.

Link?

Originally posted by LastProphet527

Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by LastProphet527
reply to post by satron

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We all no America will be the country to end this world, it wont be the Muslims, it wont be Koreans, it wont be the Chinese, it will be this nasty continent that ends life for man as we no it.

Out of all the races in this world, God and the heavens look down on America more than any other continent in the history of life it self. America will go down and be written in the text of history as the most disgusting continent that ever governed a populace in times in which growth just stopped.

When will America grow up?

It’s disgraceful now days to call your self an American, just utterly and blatantly…NASTY!

Its bad enough america has never contributed nothing to this earth as a whole, and when i say nothing i mean absulutly nothing...but 2 atomic bombs dropped on countries, and endless wars using more bombs on humans with sticks and stones.
It would be so unpatriotic for a human to be patriotic to a continent like this,really would.

edit on 10-6-2012 by LastProphet527 because: (no reason given)

Well, I disagree you saying America hasn't done anything for the world, there's plenty, but there is a point where you have to reflect on what you've accomplished compared to the suffering caused in the process. Look at the patent office submissions, we are patenting more things than we ever have. I do believe there is more we could do, but I'm afraid the people with the money are afraid to let go of the reigns because they are positioning their self with all this money for something.

Money is the problem and it's the problem in this fiasco. Meanwhile we are generating a lot of hate towards us, and what they might do to retaliate could justify to our rulers to tighten the vice grip on it's citizens. It's happening.

I don't mind being an American, but I do mind the image my country is painting of me.

Anyways, you've got a lot of ideas while painting them in broad strokes.

Link?

America is not your country unless your blood is inside the white house, or part of the 1%...Period !

But if you are than good for you .

Originally posted by nenothtu



The key there is where you say "last year", instead of saying "right now".

I fail to see the significance of it you see in it happening last year. Is that like a life time ago or something?

I'm suggesting that the decentralization of power and more power in the hands of local citizenry than is found in the hands of a centralized despot can't be a bad thing. As far as stability goes, you betcha the central despots are going to kick up a fuss over local seizure of power! Would you seriously expect that to flow smoothly? All births are accompanied by labor pains.

They've devolved into tribal warfare. What was "birthed" was a monstrosity made the the west.

Straw man. Nowhere have I suggested Dutch East India Company involvement.

I never said you did. You failed to get the analogy because that happened a long time ago, and you say let it go like it occurred so long ago. If it happened yesterday, would you still say, "Let it go?"

THIS is a current event - i.e. "what happens after Gadaffi". THAT isn't - i.e. last year's news.

That sounds like the future.

I don't think you have a good grasp on what a "current event" is. It certain is still a current event because other countries will be balkanized in similar ways. IT'S STILL GOING ON.

Also, the truth hasn't been accepted as why Gaddafi was toppled in the first place, and it wasn't because he was a brutual dictator. So, it will remain a current story until it does, since it is still developing.

When you bring the "it" you claim I'm griping about, I'll explain the relevance. To expect me to explain some nebulous "it" without specifying what you want explained is ludicrous. Find "it", THEN ask.

So you're saying that you'll just justify yourself, because "I'm right, and that makes you automatically wrong."

Love it.

That does appear to be a rather subjective opinion, constructed solely to take a slap at "the west", which is also a rather generalized concept.

Historically, I'm correct. And it will be so in the future, my crystal ball tells me.

I may not be "the west", but I AM telling you that dictators and centralized power are BAD things for the welfare of the people and their liberty.

They need to undergo their own progression, but this isn't about over throwing dictators to "liberate" the people they rule. It's about controlling the ME and profiting off of it. I'm sick of the "spreading democracy, and fighting terrorism" BS. I don't buy it, and no one else should.

Ok, then get specific. Who do you maintain they are GOOD for?

They are good for people whom have benefited from it...like the people of Libya!!

To what?

To your claim that dictators are bad for everyone.

I'll give you a link. I'm guessing your going to say this was TERRIBLE!!

And?

I'm missing the relevance to decentralizing power in Libya circa 2012.... as a matter of fact, the ONLY relevance I can see is that the US seems NOT to be backing a dictator in Libya! Is that the point you're trying to make? If so, pointing at dictators they have supported in the past, or dictators they have in office now, isn't a very good way to make that point.