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Originally posted by SarK0Y
reply to post by ideasarebulletproof
Just a little remark: one moment is, parents been informed of troubles & hella other one -- they been forced to abort + keep in mind, hospitals could kill 'wrong' babies by silent agreement w/ gov. & insurance companies
Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by TrueBrit
Depends upon what you interpret to mean eugenics.
Quite bluntly - the ability to reproduce does not of itself establish a good reason to reproduce. People with genetic disorders that cannot be corrected through gene therapy in their offspring should seriously consider abstaining from reproducing in a biological sense.
Now - if you want to start trying to craft a certain "breed" of human - the more power to you if you can find the volunteers to participate. I don't think it will meet with much success - but if people want to get together and try to work out how to breed and form a race of their own designation... why not?
I do not, however, think it is a good idea - or acceptable - to decide to start eliminating undesirable genetic traits involuntarily (IE - "nazi" eugenics).
But if people want to voluntarily participate in programs - that's their call.
Personally - I'll be looking for my wife to be not just a good person I love and get along with - but a good candidate for producing healthy and adept children.
I want kids to train to survive the apocalypse and rebuild society. They've got to be smart, tough, and vision that can see into the infra-red spectrum (and venom-laced canine teeth).
I'm jesting a little bit - but I want my kids to be equipped to be greater than myself if they so choose to be. And I would hope they do the same for their kids.
And not just in terms of biology - the home environment is pretty crucial to how the early body develops. It plays a huge role in developing and reinforcing an individual.
Originally posted by SyphonX
How do you abort a sociopath, and is it detectable in the womb?
I would possibly share your sentiments if we could "abort" the sociopaths and destructive psychopaths in this world.. but alas, we cannot. Physical abnormalities and the "disabled" are really not the "problem" in this world, are they? When was the last time someone with advanced cerebral palsy destroyed an entire oceanic eco-system with crude oil, then complained quote, "I want my life back." ?
Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by draco49
There is no way to detect sociopathic and psychopathic tendancies before birth in all cases. However, there is a gene, reffered to as the Warrior Gene, which has been linked with anti-social personality disorders. In simple terms this genes presence in some individuals can cause increased capacity for violence. However, the mere presence of the gene does not indicate a certainty of ill behavior or evil.
For example, although some serial killers probably have the gene, so do honourable and reasonable folks who happen to be more than capable of defending themselves. Look up Monoamine oxidase A for more information.
Originally posted by draco49
You make a good point about sociopaths. I don't know if there are embryonic tests that can be performed to detect sociopathy, but if such a test existed provided consistent, accurate results, a positive test result would be grounds for immediate termination, IMO. Sociopaths are dangerous to the public, and suffer from a complete lack of conscience that prevent them from living happy, productive lives. In general, I am not in favor of selectively terminating pregnancy based on genetic culling, but in the case of sociopaths, it truly is better for everyone that they be identified and suppressed as early as possible.
Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by newcovenant
...and just who, pray, decides what is malformed? Unfit to live? I've met some truly beautiful people who are just about the most vile things walking this earth...
I've also met some "malformed" people who are among the most beautiful... So tell me, who decides what constitutes malformed?
What is malformed? Kind of a gray area there, don't you think? Full of opportunity for abuse. Until our grasp of ethical behaviour matches our intelligence, eugenics is a bad idea.
Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by Maxmars
I can honestly say "none." In my cosmology, nothing is ever wasted. Genius isn't born; it's what some who are "born" grow into. My "belief" is no less valid than yours. In fact, historically speaking, mine is far more popular and commonplace.
Originally posted by Sinny
Nope! Sorry! I'm all for it.
Its like selectively breeding cattle... Your not gonna breed anyone with disease now are you?
It amazes me when people continue with pregnancies that the scan has shown to be highly defected, like severe downs syndrome. I look at those people sitting in wheel chairs pretty much cabbaged all their life... And that aint no life!
Breed serious disease and deformaties out of us. Simple. Its for the greater good after all.
Why can't some people grasp that?