Originally posted by DeadSnow
The entertainment industry was never designed to benefit the artists, they barely make anything and to be honest with you I'm only in it for the
sponsorship, free clothes, creating awareness etc.
Yeah that's why all the Beatles, all the guys from Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and all others are filthy stinking rich.
Michael Jackson had hundreds of million and blew them away on crap.
A lot of musicians are just idiots, they reach the top, make some money and suddenly want to live an expensive, over the top lifestyle, everything
crashes and burns and they are bankrupt, the perfect example for this is MC Hammer, look his story up and see how much money he spent on gardeners and
other people. It's insane. Then they complain they were ripped off by the label. It's a joke.
There are poor musicians, but it's mostly because they either play in a Genre the broad majority isn't interested in or are just crap. First: 90% of
the people on this planet just follow the mainstream, they listen to the 'hits of today' and the charts. Show them Black Metal, Jazz, Blues, Death
Metal and they aren't interested in it, they even may hate it because it isn't as easy listening as your standard crappy 3 minute Lady Gaga
Thing is: It's not the fault of the record labels, they could advertise the hell out of this and maybe bring one album of this genres into the
charts. A fine example is the Blues Brothers, thanks to the movie they become incredible popular but except for the soundtrack to the movie, all other
live albums and studios albums didn't sell. Is it the fault of the record label or the band? No, it's the fault of the people who lose interested
quickly and generally want whats simple.
Originally posted by DeadSnow
The record label always wins even if the album doesn't sell over 100k. Those rich lists they put up on forbes..well don't buy into the hype. You can
sell 3 million records and not even come close to having a million dollars in net worth.
Yeah, the record labels win so much, that today we have 5 big record labels, a couple of smaller beneath it and a very bad situation.
Look at the 70's or 80's and look what labels were back then. Labels like Casablanca, Geffen, Polydor, Capitol Records, Island Records, Def Jam,
Columbia, RCA, MCA, to name a few either went under or were bought. And some of those were powerhouses. Geffen was probably the biggste label in the
late 80's and early 90's thanks to bands like Guns n' Roses, Nirvana, Tesla and others.
Which also leads to: Less big labels means less competition, less various styles who can become big. Until the 80's the Charts were usually quite a
diverse potpourri of everything. Especially here in Europe. Then came the 90's, labels went under and since then 90% of the charts consist of either
crappy female voiced pop music, whiny emo 'rock' or rap and nothing else.
And of course the musicans don't make most of the money. Why should they? The labels do:
- provide them with money in the first place to buy some instruments (when they sign a contract)
- help them finance their album so it doesn't sound like it was recorded in a garage
- provide all the advertisement
- release the album to the stores, produce the records, usually are behind finding cover artists, booklet autors, producing the whole package
- export it to the world
Do you think this can be done with 5 dollars? There are hundreds and hundreds of people involved in helping a group of 4-6 people to release their
music to the public in every part of the world...and gasp...those humans want to make some money too. I know it's a weird concept you may not
understand, they aren't robots and while CDs and cases may be prroduced in a factory it's not done by Androids and Robots.
The majority of the money needed to release an album is spent by the record company.
There's a reason that when a band launches it's own record label it either fails horribly or they never, ever reach their audience because they are
extremely limited in funds and thought it was an easy job.
I know this, because quite a few bands i like went into "we do it ourselves". Toto was once one of the biggest bands on this planet. 20 years later
they went into "We do it ourselves and licence the album". They thought they would make more money this way. In the end, the album wasn't available
in north america, they had problems in japan and even though they had the help of EMI in europe (who invested quite a sum in advertisement) it was a
complete failure. After that horrible botch, they returned to a standard record contract with Frontiers Records and their next album was 10 times as
It's sad that most people don't have a clue about how it works, but still think they know it and talk about it