posted on May, 31 2012 @ 10:35 PM
I have recently done an independent study on historical figures similar to Jesus, that also predate Jesus. I will go briefly into detail on the
1. Krishna: Krishna was born without sexual union, through mental transmission. Krishna and Jesus were of royal decent. Both selected disciples to
spread their teachings. Both performed miracles, casting out demons, making the blind see again, and healing disease. Both were visited by wise men
and shepherds. Both were crucified and were resurrected.
2. Zoroaster: Both baptized in a river. Both born of a virgin. Both cast out demons and returned sight to the blind man. Both follower's expect a
second coming. Both were tempted in the wilderness. Both taught about heaven and hell.
3. Dionysus: Born of a virgin on December 25th. Was placed in a manger. performed miracles. Turned water into wine. Rose from the dead. He was called
“King of Kings” and “God of Gods.” He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed
One,” and the “Alpha and Omega.”
4. Attis: Attis was born on December 25th of a virgin. He was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body was eaten as bread by his worshipers.
Crucified on a tree. Rose after three days. Descended to the underworld.
5. Horus: Only Begotten son of god, born of a virgin. Received a death threat as an infant. Placed in a manger. No accounts of their life between ages
12 and 30. Baptized at age 30, and the baptizer was beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was
crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days. Oh yeah, and he resurrected his friend, whose name translates to Lazarus.
Now, taking into account all of this information, how is it that Jesus's story is any more true than the others. The stories are strikingly similar,
especially the stories of Horus and Krishna. It seems as if The story of Jesus, may in fact be a compilation of all of these stories. Doesn't it seem
likely that the four writer's of the gospels had heard these stories and used them and the prophecies in the old testament to create this Jesus
To the Christians of ATS:
What makes Jesus any more real than these other people?
What makes your holy book anymore true than the many other holy books out there?
What makes your god any more real than the thousands of other gods?
Which seems more plausible: God created many men, or man created many gods?
At what point does this all break down and just become a bunch of made up stories decided to implement fear and control people? At this point, if you
are a logical, rational thinker, you should be doubting (even the slightest bit) your beliefs. How is it that the events in the bible are only 4,000
years old, but humans have been around for at least 100,000 years? How is it that the central character in the bible, is very similar to other people
who predated his existence? I think the answer to those two questions is quite simple:
It's all make believe. Even though the question of god can not be answered, we can at least say that more than likely, theism is incorrect. You may
still choose to be a deist, but with so many religions and beliefs out there, I don't see how anyone can maintain a position of theism. I myself was
Christian, at least until I reached the age of reason. To say that you are theist, you claim to know god as a personal god, and your theism is the
right one over everyone else who has a different theism. You place your faith in a book with so many inconsistencies and paradoxes, the authors of the
book couldn't even agree. You place your faith in Jesus, someone who sounds so similar to the 5 previously mentioned characters. Everyone can't be
right, and considering these other characters predated Jesus, your theism is probably wrong. At this point there is not much of a case for Jesus, or
at least in my opinion. So from here, I will leave it to the people of ATS.
I would like to ask any Christian to answer the questions I have presented. Let us debate intelligently and with respect for each others opinions (at
least to some degree).. I ask that you take in all of the data provided with an open mind. Thank you for your time..
I would like to add one last thing:
As an atheist, it is not my job to prove or disprove god, as it simply cannot be done.
But, as a theist, it is your job to show why your theism is correct.