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Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and commands of a government, or of an occupying international power. Civil disobedience is commonly, though not always,[1][2] defined as being nonviolent resistance. It is one form of civil resistance. In one view (in India, known as ahimsa or satyagraha) it could be said that it is compassion in the form of respectful disagreement.
One of its earliest massive implementations was brought about by Egyptians against the British occupation in 1919 Revolution.[3] Civil disobedience is one of the many ways people have rebelled against what they deem to be unfair laws. It has been used in many nonviolent resistance movements in India (Gandhi's campaigns for independence from the British Empire), in Czechoslovakia's Velvet Revolution and in East Germany to oust their communist governments,[4][5] in South Africa in the fight against apartheid, in the American Civil Rights Movement, in the Singing Revolution to bring independence to the Baltic countries from the Soviet Union, recently with the 2003 Rose Revolution in Georgia and the 2004 Orange Revolution[6] in Ukraine, among other various movements worldwide.
Originally posted by The X
reply to post by Ben81
I always had the impression that OWS was instigated to give the disenfranchised a lesson in futility.
There are some lessons the government cannot give you whilst you are sat in front of your T.V.
With so many governments playing the game so close to the bone, it only takes a minor miscalculation for things to reach the tipping point.
The governments are only as strong as the most idiotic and weak decision maker, politicians are both weak and stupid, it is just a question of time.
Press Release # opQuebec. Anonymous is warning the government of Quebec.
Citizens of the free world,
World governments continue to repress us.
Anonymous addresses in particular the Government of Quebec. We are watching you for some time. We learn that you are trying to stifle student demonstrations by passing laws to prevent their sequences.
The Government of Quebec the right to protest murders by adopting an emergency law to silence protests against rising tuition fees.
Government of Quebec
You bafouez student rights, by prohibiting protest near universities, by prohibiting the wearing of a mask, being tough and improperly event organizers.
Government of Quebec, you are warned!
The actions of the citizens of Quebec are legitimate and justified. The people of Quebec have the right to protest against the disproportionate increase in tuition fees. We ask you to leave the Quebec people say what they want you to hear.
We are Anonymous,
We are Legion,
We do not forget,
We do not forgive,
We dread!
Originally posted by Ben81
Mainstream Media IGNORES Quebec Revolution... the government obviously censored the media
Originally posted by stanguilles7
The only ones ignoring this are the general public. The media has covered it a fair bit. More in Canada than the US, obviously, since it is just a conflict with French-speaking schools in Quebec who are protesting tuition hikes, but still, its gotten press. And from what I can tell, this is a fairly roudy minority who are just looking for excuses to riot. Only about 1/3 of the students even supported the protests up until a few days ago. Many just want to get back to class.
Dont blow your minority protest out of proportion. When you have middle class people in the streets, working class people, the poor, not just a handful or relatively privileged students complaining about a rather small tuition increase, ten you'll garner more attention.
And that isnt to say I dont support the protests, myself. I do. The government broke a promise about funding. But I dont think pretending the handful of angry wanna-be anarchists you post images of is some sort of larger social movement is a accurate way to cover it. The student groups doing the actual negotiations with the government are the ones DOING something, The idiots setting things on fire are just agent provocateurs and useful idiots
Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by Ben81
Like I said, up until a few days ago. I agree that this recent action has (at least temporarily) increased public support for the students. My main point was that this is not being 'ignored', and that to compare this to something like Egypt or Iran, as the OP has done in other threads, is absurd. It's a relatively small student protest with an even smaller faction of violent protests within it. It's not really something that warrants a lot of attention in the US media.
Originally posted by Danbones
The whole situation may have been created so as to provide the propaganda reasons to elevate the police state in Canada.
Originally posted by Ben81
If i remember correctly
Anderson Cooper was speaking days and nights about the protest in Tahir square
the government of Mubarak then imposed strick new laws and tried to disperse the protesters by force
look where it got him ..
Now the students will protest until the P-M of Quebec quit
they are chanting his name in the streets by thousand
that they will not stop until he quit
and yet there is absolutly no update on CNN about the recent events
no speaking about the new law 78 neither
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Originally posted by Ben81
If i remember correctly
Anderson Cooper was speaking days and nights about the protest in Tahir square
the government of Mubarak then imposed strick new laws and tried to disperse the protesters by force
look where it got him ..
Now the students will protest until the P-M of Quebec quit
they are chanting his name in the streets by thousand
that they will not stop until he quit
and yet there is absolutly no update on CNN about the recent events
no speaking about the new law 78 neither
Dude. Seriously? In Egypt, hundreds of thousands of people came out and protested, from all walks of life, against a government that could just as easily slaughter them all. And you're comparing that to a few thousand students in montreal? When you have nearly your entire population in the streets, demanding more than low student tuition, then you can make that comparison.
Sure, it deserves some attention. But expecting the US media to make a big deal out of it is naive, and comparing it to Egypt is absurd and inaccurate.
This latest 'riot' by protesters was, according to several student groups, was a handful of provocateurs and drunken pub goers.