Video of second object near the Sun, very clear.

It is obvious from the way the person shooting this moves the camera around to see what is a lens flare and what is not, the lens flare moves and everything that remains stationary is not.

www.youtube.com...

The coverup will be finished soon.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


Sun illuminated clouds and reddish lens flare.

Object?
NO.

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
It is obvious from the way the person shooting this moves the camera around to see what is a lens flare and what is not, the lens flare moves and everything that remains stationary is not.

www.youtube.com...

The coverup will be finished soon.

Just one problem, the object clearly passes in front of the clouds and a round object that size would have made the news. It has to be some sort of camera anomoly or trickery.

The second sun is a reflection off the lens inside the camera(and hence smaller) due to the refraction of light passing through the sunglasses.

I'd be willing to bet that the sunglasses used, were polarised.

It is one thing when people discuss a rumor and debunk it for various reasons, some logical others fallacious, but I get a real laugh when people try to talk you out of something you can see with your own eyes. Very Orwellian.

reply to post by OccamAssassin


Ok. Explain how is than sun reflected at the moment the sun goes behind the cloud and is not visible...but the "second" sun is visible in that brief moment. Wouldn't the reflection be in front of the clouds....since it is a lens artifact?


Just asking...


edit: second sun is clearly going behind the cloud. It is fixed constantly disregarding the camera movement. Wouldn't the reflection move if it's a camera reflection, if the camera is moving? Yet this object remains relative to the sun.

The guy who shot this video shot another one the next day, this time with English narration instead of Slovak:

www.youtube.com...

Pretty obvious again it is not a lens flare.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by OccamAssassin

 

Ok. Explain how is than sun reflected at the moment the sun goes behind the cloud and is not visible...but the "second" sun is visible in that brief moment. Wouldn't the reflection be in front of the clouds....since it is a lens artifact?


Just asking...


edit: second sun is clearly going behind the cloud. It is fixed constantly disregarding the camera movement. Wouldn't the reflection move if it's a camera reflection, if the camera is moving? Yet this object remains relative to the sun.

edit on 16-5-2012 by MarioOnTheFly because: (no reason given)

Glad to see that at least there is one person on this thread who represents a real opinion and/or is open minded, and is not just another "knowledge management specialist" paid to debunk anything related to the coverup.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by OccamAssassin

 

Ok. Explain how is than sun reflected at the moment the sun goes behind the cloud and is not visible...but the "second" sun is visible in that brief moment. Wouldn't the reflection be in front of the clouds....since it is a lens artifact?


Just asking...


edit: second sun is clearly going behind the cloud. It is fixed constantly disregarding the camera movement. Wouldn't the reflection move if it's a camera reflection, if the camera is moving? Yet this object remains relative to the sun.

edit on 16-5-2012 by MarioOnTheFly because: (no reason given)

When the Sun goes behind the cloud the second image dulls. When the second image disappears, it seems to coincide with the densest part of the cloud.

Look at the sun as it comes out from behind the cloud. The second image appears as soon as the sun emerges.

There you go, it's easier to watch

Could be the moon right?

reply to post by OccamAssassin


I don't agree with you there...but let's leave it at that.

However...the moon explanation is plausible. Does anyone know....can it be the moon? Is this position of the moon possible during that time?

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


Hey man...I try to contribute. I hate instant debunkers. This find is interesting. Could be the moon...I'm not sure. Definately not a lens flare or some other mundane explanation....at least I think so.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by OccamAssassin

 

I don't agree with you there...but let's leave it at that.

However...the moon explanation is plausible. Does anyone know....can it be the moon? Is this position of the moon possible during that time?

Someone in the comments section brings up the moon and this is the response of the person who shot the video (bad spelling not edited):

"No its not the meen for your information, this was taken in at 7 pm for ur information, the moon rise starts at that day over my town at 1 am which is 6 hours later. but its your mind, and I cant change it, what ever. look, I was just trying if I see the same think what I catch day before this one... also, you can see differences in it, but that is of course not your problem.. I am not saying that there are 2 suns, but I am saying its weird that 8MP HD camera can catch something like this..."

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

Hey man...I try to contribute. I hate instant debunkers. This find is interesting. Could be the moon...I'm not sure. Definately not a lens flare or some other mundane explanation....at least I think so.

My comments to you were an implicit thanks but let's make it explicit - so thanks!

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


Yes I realized that. Anyway...so it's not the moon apparently? To a layman like me...this looks pretty interesting. Since we "know" there is only one sun in our solar system, the instant reaction is to call this a camera artifact...I understand that. But somehow...it doesn't seem to behave like it should. The object appears completely unconnected to the camera and it's movement. Must be something outside.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by OccamAssassin

 

I don't agree with you there...but let's leave it at that.

If that were the case....when the sun came out from behind the cloud wouldn't there have been a delay before the second image became visible?

However...the moon explanation is plausible. Does anyone know....can it be the moon? Is this position of the moon possible during that time?

It is too small to be the moon and the moon would still be visible without polarised sunglasses.

This subject has been covered many times on ATS......Deny Ignorance ppls.

I keep my eye out every day for objects that might appear around the sun. I'm hoping to see something soon...

Very interesting stuff, thank you for sharing.

S&F

my guess it's either jupiter or venus or some other body reflecting the sun. Because if it is a second sun then we would feel the effects ie global warming increased radiation earthquakes tsunami's etc.......................wait we allready have that

reply to post by gaurdian2012


We are using "second sun" terminology for the sake of the argument. We don't think it's really the second sun.