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Originally posted by earthinhabitant
Originally posted by DAVID64
Well, you've just proven premeditation to a court. Now, just hope they don't dig too deep into your background during prosecution.
You have no reason to hold a grudge against someone for what their ancestors did.
Way, way too much of that going on already.
I have some grudges towards certain people for what they have done, granted, none on anything ones parents or ancestors done, and the person in regards, at this moment, my reason for starting this thread, is have been told a few things about him and what happen and how he is and how he may have condoned the "trail of tears" and he still treats Native American's and others, as 3rd class people and has money from his ancestors land grab and gold prospecting, that made him an accessory to some extent, would argue, however not enough to justify taking actions, or is it?
Should he say something like" there ain't no such thing as good indian, only a dead indian" or anything that resembles this remark, ...we guess we can say," that, them, there, is feuding words."
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by bluemirage5
I don't see how one can morally seek retribution for something that happened three generations ago.
How would you seek retribution? Slit the throat of an infant because his great grandfather killed your grandfather maybe?
Originally posted by MysteriousHusky
reply to post by earthinhabitant
Good outlook. You should be just fine. If you do encounter anyone who makes an offhand comment however be cautious if you choose to catch them on it. Sometimes patience is best exercised like when you go to an old folks home and you hear something racist or vile but you know you can't do anything because their mindset is pretty much fixed. Okay... that may be a bad if not stereotypical example but you get the idea.
Originally posted by iterationzero
reply to post by earthinhabitant
It sounds like you've already decided on having a confrontation with this person. I'd be interested to see a recording of your interaction with them. I'm willing to bet that you'll be steering the conversation toward topics that are most likely to give you your desired outcome and will bait this person into saying something that you can construe as offensive, giving you your excuse to commit some act of violence.
Seek help.
Originally posted by MrUncreated
My grandmother's mother was 100% Cherokee, married and Irishman, drunken womanizer that he was. I don't know what that makes me, or how much Cherokee I have in me, but I did not go through what they went through, so I couldn't exactly say they're my people... the unfortunate human race is "my people". I don't really know where you're going with this thread, and I think you need to explain yourself a bit better.
Originally posted by DAVID64
Originally posted by earthinhabitant
Originally posted by DAVID64
Well, you've just proven premeditation to a court. Now, just hope they don't dig too deep into your background during prosecution.
You have no reason to hold a grudge against someone for what their ancestors did.
Way, way too much of that going on already.
I have some grudges towards certain people for what they have done, granted, none on anything ones parents or ancestors done, and the person in regards, at this moment, my reason for starting this thread, is have been told a few things about him and what happen and how he is and how he may have condoned the "trail of tears" and he still treats Native American's and others, as 3rd class people and has money from his ancestors land grab and gold prospecting, that made him an accessory to some extent, would argue, however not enough to justify taking actions, or is it?
Should he say something like" there ain't no such thing as good indian, only a dead indian" or anything that resembles this remark, ...we guess we can say," that, them, there, is feuding words."
In the event he says any of that, You have the moral high ground. Beat his ass.
Originally posted by frazzle
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by bluemirage5
I don't see how one can morally seek retribution for something that happened three generations ago.
How would you seek retribution? Slit the throat of an infant because his great grandfather killed your grandfather maybe?
It hasn't ended. The rape of reservation lands and of the people on them goes on without pause. If you can find it, rent the movie Thunderheart. Its based on real events and ongoing dangers to the people from mining. The story revolves around a murder on Pine Ridge in the mid 70s and the FBI investigation.
Review on Amazon: "THUNDERHEART is a powerful examination of the surreal and frightening life on Native American reservations. Brutality is everywhere: whites against Indians, Indians against Indians, etc. Director Michael Apted does a remarkable job of tempering the violence with scenes of beauty and with images of a peace-loving tribe of people. This is a heartbreaking film at times, but there is a sense of justice in the long-run. THUNDEHEART is not a piece of hunk-actor mind candy. This is a powerful (and underrated) film that demands your attention. It is well-worth it."
I couldn't find the film anywhere, but finally tracked it down at the public library. Excellent movie!
Originally posted by Shadowalker
Wow....just wow.....
Do you realize that DNA tells the truth?
The so called native americans came here and murdered the red headed white race that was here to take their land.
The newest of the so called native americans are the coastal indians on the west coast who migrated here from the north and murdered the previous native occupants 400 years ago and took over their villages and lands.
Do you know why the current natives have barred examination in court of the red haired white mummies?
Because it makes them nothing more than that karma that came back to them from the europeans.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Andrew Jackson has to be one of the more complex American presidents. The trail of tears was instigated in part by his mother who suffered in an Indian raiding party.
On the other hand he was one of the few presidents who stood up to the banksters and they tried to take his life for it. The way you feel now is actually the same way many white people on the frontier felt, when they lost wives and children to brutal Indian raiding parties.
Yes the sword has two edges. The only cure for a cycle of vengance is for someone to start forgiving.
Guess is it was the settlers, and if Andrew Jackson wife was murdered, it could have and very well may have been a false flag, as maybe Andrew Jackson did not want to at first participate and give the orders, and be a party to the destruction...
So the bankers hired the some native Americans to stage a little covert op and paid them with some weapons and booze, etc., to go over and pay the Jackson's a little visit...