Is Ron Paul evidence of human spiritual awakening in 2012?

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
reply to post by Wonderer2012

 

Why do you Americans feel like everything revolves around YOU, just because there is one decent politician running for presidency in America does not mean some "New Age" is about to sweep the entire world. Get over yourselves.

If you read the OP you would see I am not American

In fact I'm worse in your opinion no doubt because I'm English

Also, I wasn't saying Ron Paul is the ONLY evidence. Seems like you just read the thread title and made your judgement.

I think there is a 'worldwide' awakening, and one area you can see that is in people starting to listen to the ideas of a politician who speaks out against TPTB. He's been there with the same message since the 80's and only recently have people suddenly started 'getting' his message.

It was an example to show a 'part' of this awakening, I used Ron Paul because I imagine most posters on here are American.

Your English? Hmmm... Have we argued before? Jk
No offense to the English we still love you's.


I think you are half correct when you say there is an awakening of a sort. Most of Ron Pauls fans are quite young, and most of the traditional "conservative" (thats ironic) voters are generally older.
I think the reason his message is getting across is because young people on the internet can get information in a way like ATS (for example) whereas their parents were subjected to t.v propaganda and so on. Whilst there might be a growing class of voters with REAL conservative attitudes, there still seems to be a shortage of real politcians who aren't bought and paid for.

Originally posted by oghamxx
His popularity has a long way to go.

Since when does being a popular president get legislation passed? Do you expect 535 bought and paid for Congressmen to suddenly 'fall in line'? Or do you expect/want him to rule by executive order?

I am going to try to explain something to you ONCE!!!

It isn't about RON PAUL.
It is about an IDEA!
a pattern of thought.
a shift in consciousness.

RON PAUL could die tomorrow and it wouldn't matter.
This is the idea whose time has come.
The awakening is in full swing and nothing can stop it.

If you were in a raft, headed donwstream in a river with a swift current, you would probably like a paddle!!
Paddle or no paddle, your ASS is going down that river!!!

Here's to our paddle
I'll see you downstream.

Ive been seeing the numbers 626 for years, these numbers are also consecutive on my social secutity card. I will always see either that or a 3 digit number with two sixes and a two. (626, 926, 629) always one of those.

Every atom in your body has been recycled for billions of years, and not long ago you were a star. You are made of the universe, and you are the universe. You are aware of the universe, and therefore you are the self conscious universe itself. Now, do you believe that you and carbon based life forms in general are the only way the universe has gotten conscious of itself?

There are layers and layers of consciousness in the universe, beyond the material space. The universe is a clockwork of gears going and going, and in these times the gears of the human consciousness are connecting to the whole. What is happening to us now has nothing to do with one man, and everything to do with each person on earth. This is not about Ron Paul, but all of us. As the Hopi say, we are the ones we have been waiting for.

More and more people experience that their consciousness is elevating, and most people call this the awakening. We are also in the second age of the enlightenment. The Internet has connected the whole world to instantaneous communication, and these times are absolute revolutionary! We have never been close to anything like what we now are experiencing in communication, and you better believe that these times are radically different from anything we know. We have created the helping tool to elevate our consciousness to a stronger unity. We have materialized a sort of over consciousness, a place where anybody can take and give thoughts. The right ideas and messages are reaching the right people in mere seconds, and our growth are getting exponential.

Communication and synchronicity are ramping up, and I believe this is because human consciousness is aligning with each other and the universe. The universe speaks through all, so it also speaks through numbers. I don’t really know if the numbers represent something, but they are most defiantly part of my and others synchronicity towards each others. I keep seeing variations of 133 like 1333, 131, 313 and variations of 122 like 1222, 121, 221, and 112 and so on. In the beginning I had a hard time figuring out what this meant, but now I believe it just the universal gears coming into place.

So here we are then, the year 2012. The shift in ages is upon us, and we are to usher in the golden age. There is a great feeling that the hundredth monkey are already here, and more and more people are experiences real positive hope in the midst of the fascist hell hole the psychopaths are creating on this earth. There is reason to believe we have reached the threshold of love on this earth, meaning that exponential growth in people losing their fears are upon us and that this would only be stoppable by destroying the whole earth and its life.

Gaea is now demanding a New World Order for the survival of us both. New World meaning a world where love and positive forces are ruling the consciousness, and Order as in symbiotic order/relationship over destruction. The dark ones have been hoodwinked into leaking holy symbols and key codes to the human consciousness, most importantly the all Seeing Eye. We once used the symbol to represent our three eyes (the two in the front and the one in the mind) and a symbol for our relationship with the grand creator.

You see dear brothers and sisters; the biggest secret of the dark ones is that you all have a stargate within you. You all have this portal (third eye) in your mind which can initiate contact with the other side. We are not yet adult as sentient beings, and I don't really believe that we ever had the ability to do this on our own. But Gaea gave us the appropriate helping tools which was robbed from us and deleted from history.

The Mayans and Aztecs for example had contact with god through their sacrament which they called teonanacatl, or flesh of the gods. They apparently prophesied the return of their gods in these times, and behold; they are here. Do you believe yourself to be so enlightened that you would instantaneously know and understand the form the gods would return in, or are there reason to believe that it could be so outlandish, weird and alien that you wouldn’t acknowledge it? Please have that in mind as I represent the true return of the gods and the forbidden fruit of knowledge, the missing link and the answer to our future;








And in Christian art;






The knowledge to the hidden history is out, and the gods are truly returning in 2012. Brothers and sister, chose love over fear! Where is it written in stone that human beings have to achieve enlightenment without help and assistance? In all your life you are dependent on the help of others, and there is great strength in accepting help. Gaea has given us her assistance

I agree with OP. I've been noticing it too. And not just looking for evidence, but having evidence of it hit me like a ton of bricks when I was least expecting it.

The times they are a changin'

Look what popped up in the news. I do think it is more editorial than news.
Don't tell Paul's supporters the primary is over

At the very least, they want a prominent speaking role for Paul at the convention, said Marianne Stebbins, who has coordinated Paul efforts in Minnesota. More broadly, they want a platform for their message of limited government as they work to reshape the Republican Party, one state at a time.

So that's the message they want out it says - limited government.

Is that the spiritual awakening people want? I think this differs from the recent election in France, which suggests Europeans want more government involvement.

other than being a career politician
Ron Paul is really nothing more than this guy

Ron Paul isn't ahead of his time

Originally posted by zarp3333
Amen! There is no denying it. What I find sad is those persons who, for a love of money, would forsake their own quiet little voice telling them humanity is kind. Humanity is generous. Humanity is loving. We all have far, far more in common than not.

SOMETHING BIG IS COMING & IT'S GONNA BE GOOD, DAMN GOOD!

I'm not 100% certain, but I swear I can feel something in my bones. It's definitely brewing.
When SHTF I'll be kicking back with a cigarette watching it like a bare knuckle boxing match behind a pub.

reply to post by stereologist


You said he wasn't popular. That's wrong.


pop·u·lar/ˈpäpyələr/
Adjective:
Liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people or by a particular person or group.



952000 likes on facebook. That's popular whether you like it or not.


What you meant to say is "He's not as popular as the more mainstream candidate Mitt Romney".

I'm not very keen on this "messiah" thing...

Men are men... they are not gods.

Be ware of false prophets.

reply to post by swoopaloop

You said he wasn't popular. That's wrong.

No I'm not wrong. You want to use a measure of Facebook to show he is popular. I used votes.

He gets few votes in the primaries
He gets few delegates in the primaries
He get few votes in the general elections

In a 4-way race he holds dead last.

What you meant to say is "He's not as popular as the more mainstream candidate Mitt Romney".

He's not as popular as:
Obama
Santorum
Romney
Gingrich
McCain
Huckabee

As a presidential candidate he has been less popular than:
Ross Perot
John Anderson
Wallace

The votes are what counts. Facebook numbers simply illustrate that he has energized faithful that spend (waste) time on Facebook. I have stated that all along. His followers are energized. The problem for Ron Paul is that he has few people that vote for him. The last election in 2008 suggests that few of his energized supporters voted for him. It was all rah rah until it came time to vote then they dropped Paul like a hot potato.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by swoopaloop

 

You said he wasn't popular. That's wrong.

No I'm not wrong. You want to use a measure of Facebook to show he is popular. I used votes.

He gets few votes in the primaries
He gets few delegates in the primaries
He get few votes in the general elections

In a 4-way race he holds dead last.

What you meant to say is "He's not as popular as the more mainstream candidate Mitt Romney".

He's not as popular as:
Obama
Santorum
Romney
Gingrich
McCain
Huckabee

As a presidential candidate he has been less popular than:
Ross Perot
John Anderson
Wallace

The votes are what counts. Facebook numbers simply illustrate that he has energized faithful that spend (waste) time on Facebook. I have stated that all along. His followers are energized. The problem for Ron Paul is that he has few people that vote for him. The last election in 2008 suggests that few of his energized supporters voted for him. It was all rah rah until it came time to vote then they dropped Paul like a hot potato.

But you have to realise that he is popular when you look at his message. Given how far Ron Paul is from the mainstream, his support is actually incredible.

Being away from the mainstream ideas and still forcing your way in to the mainstream against their will shows for me that people are waking up. The media can ignore him all they like, but his message is getting through to people- and it's only happening recently- he's been around since the 80's saying the same things, yet only now, are people 'seeing it'.

His message is way against the MS bull# the likes of Obama et al talk about.

Listen to any politican and all they bang on about is taxes, healthcare and education. They just repeat those words, the vast majority of people just stick with the mainstream topics.

reply to post by Wonderer2012


Around thirty is the age most people start to become aware of the world around them and how it impacts them. This is not new by any means and neither is it spiritual.

What worries me is that Ron Paul supporters are becoming like a Cult. All you have discovered are Libertarians. They have not exactly been hiding, except most don't run as Republicans.

In reality, the world is far better off than it was in past generations. More people are living better, less people are starving and in Industrialized countries the environment has improved dramatically. Problem is people ignore history when viewing the world around them.

To some one my age, nearing retirement, I've watched the steady improvement over time. Until now that is. It's the Progressive agenda and Socialism that are now the largest problem we face. The mentality of the latest generation that the world owes them a living when they contribute nothing themselves. That's where the true danger lies right now. Young people rioting for more handouts instead of working, yes working, towards a better future.

People want a better future they will reject socialistic ideas and instead demand opportunity.

I also agree in large part with the Libertarian idea's, idea's Ron Paul did not invent, but shares with the Libertarians. What holds them back is their insistence drugs be legalized which attracts people others don't care to associate with. It attracts all the addicts and loons that surround the drug culture, meaning the Libertarians will never have a large enough voice to hold any power.

Depending on who the candidate is from the Libertarians this time, I may yet vote for the real Libertarian Candidate. Ron Paul however chose to abandon his own Party and I see that the same way I see Democrats who knowingly run as Republicans because they think they can advance their own agenda by being dishonest to the voters about who they are. Granted Ron Paul does not lie like they do, but he is still running in a Party he does not share a platform with. He's been doing that for a long time now.

You may have just reached the age your aware of who is out there, but those older than you have known about Mr. Paul for a long while. It's not an awakening; it's just you reaching that age and going through what we all go through as we become "mature" adults. Now you should look to history for truth. You live in one of the easiest of times in mans history in a generation that never sacrificed to build the easy life most live now in the US. Others did all the work that made this easy life possible, don't mess it up by following it up with the Me, Me, Me generation we are seeing now. The more Progressive we become, the lower our standard of living is and the less free we are. We are going backwards under the Progressive Agenda and Ron Paul is correct about that.

Originally posted by Outofcontrol
I'm not very keen on this "messiah" thing...

Men are men... they are not gods.

Be ware of false prophets.

Right.. which is why this is a true revolution. It's not about the man, it's about the message. That's why this isn't going away anytime soon. Ron Paul is old, someday he will be gone, but he's helped breed a movement that will live on.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by swoopaloop

 

You said he wasn't popular. That's wrong.

No I'm not wrong. You want to use a measure of Facebook to show he is popular. I used votes.

He gets few votes in the primaries
He gets few delegates in the primaries
He get few votes in the general elections

In a 4-way race he holds dead last.

What you meant to say is "He's not as popular as the more mainstream candidate Mitt Romney".

He's not as popular as:
Obama
Santorum
Romney
Gingrich
McCain
Huckabee

As a presidential candidate he has been less popular than:
Ross Perot
John Anderson
Wallace

The votes are what counts. Facebook numbers simply illustrate that he has energized faithful that spend (waste) time on Facebook. I have stated that all along. His followers are energized. The problem for Ron Paul is that he has few people that vote for him. The last election in 2008 suggests that few of his energized supporters voted for him. It was all rah rah until it came time to vote then they dropped Paul like a hot potato.

lmao it's okay that you're wrong buddy. Don't get all upset about it. Face it, Ron Paul is a popular man.

reply to post by Screwed


HOGWASH! The IDEA came to me in the late 70's. I'm still waiting.

reply to post by swoopaloop

lmao it's okay that you're wrong buddy. Don't get all upset about it. Face it, Ron Paul is a popular man.

So far the evidence says you are wrong. My prediction is that his enthusiastic few will abandon him in the fall if he chooses to run as an independent. That is what voters do. They say one thing and then do something else in the voting booth.

Ron Paul can't even garner as many votes as a segregationist.

He may be popular with you. That's okay. He may or may not appeal to me. I have never stated what I think. No matter what my personal preference is he is not that popular.

After Blaine91555 pointed out that Ron Paul is a libertarian I was curious as to how well Bob Barr did when he ran for president as the Libertarian candidate in 2008. He receiver over 520,000 votes or better than 10X received by Ron Paul.

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Originally posted by bacci0909
I agree with OP. I've been noticing it too. And not just looking for evidence, but having evidence of it hit me like a ton of bricks when I was least expecting it.

The times they are a changin'

I couldn't have said it better myself. People will talk about confirmation bias and how we're subconsciously looking for evidence and what not. Nope. I knew nothing about any of this before all these synchronicitous incidents came about. The evidence came to me, I did not seek it. I had no knowledge of anything related to this beforehand.

The synchronicitous incidents made me want to research and study like never before. And so I did, which is why I am participating in these threads.

Originally posted by oghamxx
reply to post by Screwed

 

HOGWASH! The IDEA came to me in the late 70's. I'm still waiting.

Yeah, there were people in the 50's insisting that cigarettes would kill you and they were laughed at.

Sometimes there are people who are truely ahead of their time and can clearly see things coming that others can't. You may be one of them.

It is like trying to show a rainbow to a dog.
Some people just aren't going to see what they aren't ready to see.