CHART: Economy Has Recovered All Private Sector Jobs Lost Since Obama Took Office

Originally posted by mwood
Sorry, but that chart is a bunch of BS.

I don't need a chart to let me know what is going on in the employment world. All I have to do is look around my town and state and see the thousands out of work, shops closed and businesses failing.

Just because the government says it's all better now don't make it so.

Open the "Help Wanted" section for any newspaper in the country. There is your barometer.

reply to post by tkwasny


The Help Wanted section in my newspaper in only 1-1/2 pages long. No one advertises in them any longer. It isn't a barometer of anything.

What it comes down to is policy. GOP policies lose jobs. We saw that in 2008-2009 when the economy all but imploded. Then all we got from the GOP was obstruction and record-setting number of filibusters. (Republican Obstruction at Work: Record Number of Filibusters)

When the Democrats regained tenuous control of the 110th Congress in 2007, filibusters by the new Republican minority skyrocketed. Following the landslide victory of Barack Obama and progressive Democrats in 2008, there was a clear mandate for change in reform in America, yet the 111th should set a new record for filibusters as part of a clear pattern of obstruction from those who do not want change or reform.

This chart only add further proof that Republican policies are economic disasters.

I thought 10,000 Baby Boomers a day are retiring at the moment,
how would that number affect a graph like that.
And how come it is not 10,000 new help wanted ads a day?

reply to post by tkwasny

Open the "Help Wanted" section for any newspaper in the country. There is your barometer.

Tell me how you can tell the "real unemployment" by looking at the help wanted section? I am dead serious. I want to know how you decern unemployment numbers in such a way

c'mon...can't you see that everybody here thinks Obama hasn't done anything right...we need to go back to the good old days when the republicans had control. i just can't wait for more taxes cut for the wealthy, closing down social security, cutting back on grandmas medicare, abortions are made illegal, causing doctors and woman to go to jail, or forcing them to birth everything, even if it kills the mother, turning the post office over to private business where stamps will immediately go up to 75 cents for a letter, closing down EPA, disbanding unions, repeal what little healthcare got passed..GOP motto, "if you're not rich, screw you, your on your own"

it is just getting sad now. In April the number of people not in the labor force rose by a whopping 522,000 from 87,897,000 to 88,419,000.

www.zerohedge.com...

The economy has recovered eh?

Don't think so.

Originally posted by jimmyx
c'mon...can't you see that everybody here thinks Obama hasn't done anything right...we need to go back to the good old days when the republicans had control. i just can't wait for more taxes cut for the wealthy, closing down social security, cutting back on grandmas medicare, abortions are made illegal, causing doctors and woman to go to jail, or forcing them to birth everything, even if it kills the mother, turning the post office over to private business where stamps will immediately go up to 75 cents for a letter, closing down EPA, disbanding unions, repeal what little healthcare got passed..GOP motto, "if you're not rich, screw you, your on your own"

edit on 5-5-2012 by jimmyx because: (no reason given)

You left out the cheaper gas part.
I bet you are over 4.00 a gallon on the west coast by now.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


" Leo Hindery
Chairman, Smart Globalization Initiative at the New America Foundation

Our Summary of U.S. Real Unemployment includes everything that BLS leaves out. It also identifies the Real Jobs Gap which needs to be closed in order to be at 5% full employment in real terms, job openings, and average weeks unemployed. As of March 31:



The number of Real Unemployed Workers, in all categories, increased by 295,000 workers to 26.7 million, which is well more than twice BLS’s figure of 12.5 million. (The number of Real Unemployed Workers has increased by 10.0 million since the start of the Recession in December 2007, and by 2.2 million since the Inauguration.)
The Real Unemployment Rate was 16.6%, which is more than twice BLS’s official rate of 8.1%. (March’s Real Unemployment Rate was 16.4%.)
The Real Jobs Gap is 18.6 million jobs (compared to Job Openings of only 3.5 million.) "


LINK - www.unionofunemployed.com...


Believe what you Want , but the FACTS Differ with the Official ones.........

for all you Obama haters out there, here's the breakdown of all, private, and government jobs losted or gained during the Obamas term
note that government has actually lost jobs, the government has gotton smaller....hmmm, and with a democratic president in office...

mollysmiddleamerica.blogspot.com...

that doesn't sound like a socialist/communist plot to me...Obama just turned into "republican lite"

The only reason it looks like its improving is because the numbers are misleading. They say the unemployment rate has dropped but the only reason its dropped in the news is because they only count the people getting unemployment benifits. If you dont get benifits anymore then in their eyes you are no longer unemployed. this is the only reason the "unemployment rate" is at 9%ish.

look at it this way, if 0 jobs are created this month and 100,000 people lose their unemployment benifits then everyones going to be celebrating the economy improving since on paper the unemployment rate would drop by 100,000.

No here seems to understand what the U3 is and what the U6 is.

portalseven.com...

The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers and those working part-time for economic reasons." Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over

And if you look at the chart the U6 is clearly going down as well. So not only are more people employed in general, but more people are being employed full time as well.

All he did was get even ?

Not good enough.

How do you explain the massive increases in Food Stamps and Unemployment.

Those numbers should have been self adjusting downward along the same curve.

One reason ....

Maybe all these recovered jobs are not the same paying jobs, or the same full time jobs.
Full time replaced by Part time ?

Hmmm.

Strange graph.

I love how you all argue over GOP and Democratic policies and play the blame game... that's EXACTLY what they want you to do.

Haven't you all figured it out yet? They BOTH play for the same team... MONEY.

Not you, not me, not Democrats, and not the GOP.

Fighting amongst ourselves is exactly the Machiavellian tactic that works best and that they use most often, and you all fall for it every time. Every time you prop up one of the two parties, they've won. As long as you fight each other, you won't fight them or pay attention to what the real agenda is, which is nothing more than to increase wealth and power.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll become part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

If you need help putting it into perspective, or just a reminder, have a look HERE.

~Namaste

unemployment falloffs get tracked how?
small businesses shut down and those not eligible for benefits are not tracked.

375,000 NEWLY unemployed a week+75,000 new jobs a week this figure a good average for you?

thats a net loss of at least 1.2 million a month how many months 53 x 1.2 = 63.6 million

everybody happy with that number + the untrackables

where do the legal immigrants of 2900 a week figure in
where do the illegal immigrants taking jobs figure in

somebody is blowing smoke big time

thats 63.6 million jobs lost from a national work force of what 185 million?
best answer I could find is 2009 numbers lets say 165million workforce /63.6 million unemployed = serious Depression

The U.S Department of Labor has the unemplyment rate currently at 7.2%, which it states is 11.1million people out of work. So divide 11.1/.072=154 million in the workfore. www.bls.gov... As of April 2009, the specific number was 154,731,000 in the civilian workforce. There are also approximately 1,500,000 in the military workforce. FYI, the current population of the US is 306,531,009, meaning that more than half of the US is working. Out of the whole population, 11.1 million are out of work, 43 million are elderly (65+), 48 million are stay-at-home moms/dads, and 73 million are children under 18

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
well that is a load of bs.
i had to close my shop, and me and my employees were out of work.
me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

SO the FACTS presented here are a "load of bs" just because you (out of MILLIONS of others) closed your shop??

I heard a LOT of Obama hate and ridicule of FACTS in my day, but calling this BS just because YOUR situation was a negative one is silly.

Maybe you should have tried harder. Dont blame Obama and the FACTS for your errors.

SIGH!!

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
...me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

Well, according to Republicans and the Right, you are just LAZY then.

According to THEM you have NOTHING to blame but yourself. And dont expect unemployment or any other "handouts" because according to Republicans the only "handouts" that are needed in this country is corporate welfare.

SO you are LAZY and deserve to go homeless and starve (if you have kids, they deserve it as well) due to this situation while the wealthy not only get tax breaks, but even GET MONEY BACK. Sounds wonderful, eh?

Thats THEM on the Right saying this, NOT me by the way. Way to go Republicans and their supporters. When you are DOWN, they will KICK you for good measure.

But HECK, lets just blame Obama for everything.

reply to post by hounddoghowlie

i had to close my shop, and me and my employees were out of work.
me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

The economic downturn was a result of Bush and GOP policies.

The only reason we have any shred of economic recovery are due to Obama and his policies. In 2009 with the economy in ruins the GOP wanted to play turtle and freeze the flow of money, as done in Europe. If we had done that we would still be in the middle of the worst part of the collapse. There's still a long way to go, no one is arguing with that, but the last decade has shown us which policies work, and which ones don't.

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

Saying that Obama ruined the economy is becoming a harder and harder sell each day.

Not when one looks at the national unemployment rate, which was 8.1 for April 2012. That is confirmation that the chart is no more than crafty artwork.

Let's give a big cheer for the Obamacrats... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

See ya,
Milt

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by hounddoghowlie

 

i had to close my shop, and me and my employees were out of work.
me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

The economic downturn was a result of Bush and GOP policies.

The only reason we have any shred of economic recovery are due to Obama and his policies. In 2009 with the economy in ruins the GOP wanted to play turtle and freeze the flow of money, as done in Europe. If we had done that we would still be in the middle of the worst part of the collapse. There's still a long way to go, no one is arguing with that, but the last decade has shown us which policies work, and which ones don't.

You know how it is with the Right-wingers... blame Obama for EVERYTHING. I havent heard one thing not blamed on Obama yet.

Remember all the times that idiot George W made a complete FOOL of himself nearly EVERY-TIME he opened his mouth? Well, that WAS OBAMA'S FAULT. Yes, its all Obama's fault!!

Everything's Obama's fault. Oops, I just burnt my dinner... guess its Obamas fault...

reply to post by Blackmarketeer

Dear Blackmarketeer,

Hello again. You've got a nice chart there, and I won't even argue that it is inaccurate. If i understand it, we have 6-700,000 fewer jobs now than when Obama took office, but at 150,000 more jobs a month he'll have that made up by November easily.

Did you know that in January 2009, the US had 305,529,237 people? And that tonight the estimate is 313,491,216? We have 7,961,979 more people now than when Obama took over. And we had the same number of jobs as we did then?

So we have 8 million more people without jobs than when he started. Sure, some of them are kids and disabled, but we're still talking about millions and millions of unemployed more than when Obama started.

With respect,
Charles1952