The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam

reply to post by ollncasino
Wasn't Muhammed poisoned by one of his followers?

Jesus and Muhammad teach the same things.

The religious institutes f....d things up.

The earth, the animals and humans living as one.

How to do? learn the teachings of those above

Short answer rule the world in one consciousness by the language of the hearth. (then words do not matter)

Originally posted by beezzer
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Wasn't Muhammed poisoned by one of his followers?

I have never heard of that. I don't doubt however that many people would have liked to have poisoned him but he surrounded himself with a devout bodyguard of inner circle followers.

Lest anyone doubt the Hadiths which show Muhammad preached submission to Islam by the sword, here is a verse from the Koran

Koran 9:29

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

quran.com...

If Muhammad instructed Muslims, according to the Koran, to fight those who refuse to submit to Islam until they pay jizyah tax, in what sense is Islam a religion of peace?

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by beezzer
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Wasn't Muhammed poisoned by one of his followers?

I have never heard of that. I don't doubt however that many people would have liked to have poisoned him but he surrounded himself with a devout bodyguard of inner circle followers.

Lest anyone doubt the Hadiths which show Muhammad preached submission to Islam by the sword, here is a verse from the Koran

Koran 9:29

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

quran.com...

If Muhammad instructed Muslims, according to the Koran, to fight those who refuse to submit to Islam until they pay jizyah tax, in what sense is Islam a religion of peace?

This is written again could be as true as the book of The lord of the Rings?

What vibrates with your hearth.

Allah is god, god is one.

the message is love and unity for all colors races and religion

Muslims are commanded by God to treat people; of all beliefs and cultures; friendly, kindly, and peacefully unless they fight us on our religion or they occupy our lands and drive us away from our homes

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
Muslims are commanded by God to treat people; of all beliefs and cultures; friendly, kindly, and peacefully unless they fight us on our religion or they occupy our lands and drive us away from our homes

I am glad that you are a man of peace. Unfortunately, Muhammad, as revealed in the Koran and Hadith was not.

For instance, Muhammad made it clear that the penalty for leaving Islam was death.

Sahih Bukhari, Book 83

Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

University of Southern California

Note: Sahih Bukhari is considered a sacred Hadith by Sunni Muslims who make up 85% of Muslims worldwide.

If Muhammad clearly stated that the penalty for leaving Islam is death, what sort of religion is Islam? A death cult?

The more I learn of islam, the more I doubt the claims of peace.

But if they can worship in peace then again, I won't have an issue.

The problem I see, is that they are not happy just to worship, they have to restructure where they live, even if it impacts those who don't worship the same way as them.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
Muslims are commanded by God to treat people; of all beliefs and cultures; friendly, kindly, and peacefully unless they fight us on our religion or they occupy our lands and drive us away from our homes

I am glad that you are a man of peace. Unfortunately, Muhammad, as revealed in the Koran and Hadith was not.

For instance, Muhammad made it clear that the penalty for leaving Islam was death.

Sahih Bukhari, Book 83

Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

University of Southern California

Note: Sahih Bukhari is considered a sacred Hadith by Sunni Muslims who make up 85% of Muslims worldwide.

If Muhammad clearly stated that the penalty for leaving Islam is death, what sort of religion is Islam? A death cult?

Even in Christianity people practice their believes different. Thats why it is dangerous to delve in the books for guide. Its about the experience of life, not about fact. Do not do this, or that. or else...

Love is the message and unity. Treat others like you want to be treated. (left or right karma takes care in life, and after death judgment will come of some kind)

Stand next to the prophets in their actions, do not follow them.
Praying together is basically a ceremony where good and likewise intentions are bundled and powered up in a common cause.

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
Even in Christianity people practice their believes different. Thats why it is dangerous to delve in the books for guide.

Are you seriously claiming that non-Muslims shouldn't read the Koran and Hadith to try to understand Islam?

Muhammad preached according to Islamic texts

• Death for leaving Islam Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 24, Verse 24

• Fighting others until the admit their is only one god, Allah Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24

• Jihad Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25

• Burning people for not praying Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 11, Verse 626

• Forcing Non Muslims to submit and pay jizyah tax Koran Book 9 Verse 29

I have never heard a Muslim claim before that the Koran and Hadith are not a guide to Islam.

Yet, there it is in the Koran and Hadith - the books themselves revealing that Muhammad was a violent jihadist.

THE VERSES OF THE QUR'AN:

Here are few verses on the subject of Riba (Usury):

Those who devour usury will not stand except as stands one whom the Evil One by his touch hath driven to madness. That is because they say: "Trade is like usury but Allah hath permitted trade and forbidden usury. Those who after receiving direction from their Lord desist shall be pardoned for the past; their case is for Allah (to judge); but those who repeat (the offence) are companions of the fire: they will abide therein (for ever). Qur'an 2: 275.

O ye who believe! fear Allah and give up what remains of your demand for usury if ye are indeed believers. 2: 278

O ye who believe! devour not usury doubled and multiplied; but fear Allah; that ye may prosper. 3: 130

www.mostmerciful.com...

Edit to add: So who would hate Muslims worse than a banker?

Originally posted by beezzer
Anyone has a right to worship whomever they choose.

But their rights end where mine begins.

Any issues with that, or any freedoms I lose as a result of islam, then I'm going to have a wee problem.

I couldn't have said it better^!

The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam

Too bad the fastest growing relgiion in America isn't 'common sense'.
I think that would make a wonderful new religion. And it might actually be helpful.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam

Too bad the fastest growing relgiion in America isn't 'common sense'.
I think that would make a wonderful new religion. And it might actually be helpful.

Unfortunately, in America Money is God.

In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran

Take from that what you will.

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
Jesus and Muhammad teach the same things.

Not even close.

Jesus said that HE was the way, the truth, and the life. That no one goes to The Father except through Him. He also preached a trinity God. Muslims do NOT accept the God-head in Jesus. They do NOT preach a trinity god. Also - Islam is really obsessed with sex, both on earth in the afterlife, whereas Christianity and the Christian afterlife is definately NOT.

Islam and Christianity are two very different religions. Different 'gods' and different afterlifes.

Well.... I guess there must be a close competition because I thought it was this religion.

Mormonism


The Article is from this month.

Originally posted by beezzer
Anyone has a right to worship whomever they choose.

But their rights end where mine begins.

Yet many Muslims and their apologists appear to think that their religious rights over-ride your secular rights.

Certainly, according to the first biography of Muahmmad's life written by a Muslim Ibn Ishaq in 768AD, Muhammad was not a big fan of freedom of expression.

• Muhammad authorised the murder of a number of poets (male & female) who had mocked him.

One poet was a mother sleeping with her young children. The Muslim assassin had to move the child aside before thrusting his dagger into her chest. Another victim was a male poet who was, according to Muslim sources, over 100 years old. Mohammed then absolved the Islamic murderers of any wrong doing.

• He was also an accomplished caravan raider who had the propensity to execute prisoners who had been political opponents in the past.

One such man had fallen foul of Muhammad when Muhammad was in his early days due to being a better story teller than Muhammad,. "Who will look after my young daughter?" cried the man, moments before he was executed. Muhammad then cursed him.

The Life of Muhammad (768 AD) by Ibn Ishaq

According to the first biography on Muhammad written by a Muslim 768AD, he allowed his followers to assassinate people who criticised him and then absolved the killers of any wrong doing. He also personally ordered the execution of people who had criticised him in the past.

Where do I sign up?

I'd like to have the authority of Allah when I tell my old lady how she can dress, who she can see and where she can go. Then I can also restore my family's honor with regards to my unruly wife and the teenaged daughter going through her present phases.

I'm not into the idea for praying 5 times a day, but it would be a small price to pay for all the perks. I can cheat and steal from the unbelievers with the blessing of Allah and if anyone disagrees with my new religion, their head will make a fine soccer ball. You can't get that in your average Christian religion. They can keep all those doe-eyed virgins though, that sounds like an eternity of trouble, if you know what I mean.

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Also - Islam is really obsessed with sex, both on earth in the afterlife, whereas Christianity and the Christian afterlife is definately NOT.

Wait. What?

Where do you think the Catholic "celibacy" requirement comes from? The Puritan's belief that sex is a sin unless it is to procreate? How do you explain the Catholic Church's absolute guilt in pedophilia and the general "abstinence" doctrines then? The suppression of women's rights, the "filth" of their natural processes, the hush-hush attitude about biological realities of conception.

Those are rhetorical questions, btw. The stifled prudishness of this entire country is based on Christian tenets. Kids aren't properly educated as to the names and functions of their sex organs, they are taught to be ashamed of their nudity, that sex will send them to hell. It's appalling.
Get real, please, before you get out your arsenal of rolly-eyes and lolz and blue head-shaking tools and denial and start shoving Chatecism links down everyone's throats.
You'll still be wrong.

Welcome to ten years ago TS.

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"Sisterhood is powerful", was some graffiti from the 1960's I read in a college access tunnel some 20 + years ago. Seems true enough, at least the little guy in my pants thinks its true. When I don't wear the pants the little guy feels vulnerable, but that's OK because I'm basically an exhibitionist. Maybe the little head does too much thinking for the big head, that's the male sex's Achilles heel. "Lead, follow or get out of the way", I usually just get out of the way when women take the lead and let them handle the consequences. I was a Mama's boy anyhow and not ashamed to admit it.

Originally posted by ollncasino


Yet many Muslims and their apologists appear to think that their religious rights over-ride your secular rights.

If it ever came push-to-shove, I know where I'm placing my bets.