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Originally posted by racasan
reply to post by Jameela
Let me be clear I am not totally up on what Christians worship but I am sure Christians follow Jesus the Christ (the clue is in the name) and follow what's in the new testament
So unless your Allah can be assembled out of 3 separate bits then it’s not the same one as the christian version and Mary as in Jesus’ mum isn’t one of those 3 bits making Qur'an 5:116 wrong – right?
Wiki
Mystery religions, sacred mysteries or simply mysteries, were religious cults of the Greco-Roman world, participation in which was reserved to initiates.[1] The main characterization of this religion is the secrecy associated with the particulars of the initiation and the cult practice, which may not be revealed to outsiders. The most famous mysteries of Greco-Roman antiquity were the Eleusinian Mysteries, which were of considerable antiquity and predated the Greek Dark Ages. The popularity of mystery cults flourished in Late Antiquity; Julian the Apostate in the mid 4th century is known to have been initiated into three distinct mystery cults. Notable among these late cults was the Mithraic Mysteries.
Ulansey sees study of Mithraism as important for understanding "the cultural matrix out of which the Christian religion came to birth".[213] Moreover, on the basis of his astronomical interpretation of Mithraism, Ulansey argues for a "profound kinship between Mithraism and Christianity",
Originally posted by racasan
Dude I know but some of the earlier posts on here looked like Muslims where trying shoehorn Allah onto Christianity and I was trying to understand that – Christians have that 3 part god/Jesus is his own father thing so now way can he Islam's Allah
And yes I think Jesus never even existed and is nothing more than an invention of the Romans - which I guess makes Islam wrong about that one as well
You might check out caesar's messiah by Joseph Atwill
Mah or Maonghah is the Avestan language word for both the moon and for the Zoroastrian divinity that presides over and is the hypostasis of the moon. The names 'Maonghah' and Mah derive from an Indo-European root that is also the origin of the English language word "moon." The Zoroastrian divinity has however no Vedic equivalent. Maonghah retains the name Mah in the 9th-12th century texts of Zoroastrian tradition, and continues with that name into New Persian. In Histories 7.3.7, Herodotus states that the moon was the tutelary divinity of the Iranian expatriates residing in Asia Minor. en.wikipedia.org...
When Moses was said to have descended from the mountain with the ten commandments (c. 17th - 13th century BC, the end of the Age of Taurus), some of his people or followers were found by him to be worshipping a golden bull calf. He instructed these false idol-worshippers to be killed. This represents Moses "killing" the bull and ending the Age of Taurus, and ushering in the Age of Aries, which he represents.
Another possibility is that the bull represents the constellation of Taurus. At the dawn of civilization the sun rose in the zodiacal sign of Taurus during the vernal equinox. By classical times the sun, due to the natural progression of astrological bodies, had moved out of Taurus into another constellation. According to this view, Mithras by slaying the bull is in effect ending the Age of Taurus and inaugurating a new zodiacal age. Mithras is thus a god of the cosmos with the power to move the heavens, and who regulates the great astrological cycles. The Mithraic cult would then celebrate the progression of equinoxes and solstices under the direction of its god.
Originally posted by racasan
Well no Christianity is a sun worshipping cult and Jesus is the sun
Mithras is associated with the slaying of the Mithraic bull which is thought to represent the end of the age of Taurus there is a similar event in the bible with Moses and the golden calf
At the start of the Piscean Age (about 2000 years ago) you get a new solar avatar Christians and Muslims call Jesus
So since the koran also contains stories about Moses and Jesus and given that both of them never existed and are in fact both just part of the solar myth – I guess that is a big problem for the koran being true
Originally posted by racasan
reply to post by MI5edtoDeath
And so am I, and I’m agreeing with you - Sol Invictus, Mithras, Christianity all based on the same idea and like it or not Jesus never existed he is just the next character in that story arc
www.unrv.com...
Another possibility is that the bull represents the constellation of Taurus. At the dawn of civilization the sun rose in the zodiacal sign of Taurus during the vernal equinox. By classical times the sun, due to the natural progression of astrological bodies, had moved out of Taurus into another constellation. According to this view, Mithras by slaying the bull is in effect ending the Age of Taurus and inaugurating a new zodiacal age. Mithras is thus a god of the cosmos with the power to move the heavens, and who regulates the great astrological cycles. The Mithraic cult would then celebrate the progression of equinoxes and solstices under the direction of its god.
to me the above seems like the most likely explanation for the Mithras symbolism and 2000 years ago the sun started rising in the constellation of Pisces and the start of Christianity
I think what’s put a bug up your pipe is that this makes the koran mistaken as well
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by MichiganSwampBuck
I live in southern Ga, nowhere around here I have seen Islam growing at all, this is nothing but southern Baptist territory and nothing but Christian churches been built around, perhaps in Atlanta where is more diversity it maybe more Islamic movement but around my neck of the woods I have no seen anything.
Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by TheCoffinman
This so call numbers and fastest growing religion in the US seems, looks and smells like propaganda financed by the Islamic movement.
If it is true that they are the fastest growing religion, they'd use that in a heartbeat as propaganda. I agree though, it smells like someone's propaganda.