The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam, page 2

reply to post by TheCoffinman

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2.6 Million out of 320 Million is hardly enough reason to desecrate the American Flag yet again.

Muslims would freak out on anyone that humiliate their book.

I wonder if they would understand if Americans started freaking out in response to the frequent and repeated hostility and false statements made concerning our Flag.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
The cristians will convert to islam soon, all of them

Its about the message of Jesus. The church has nothing to do with him.

Well and jesus said

Jesus predicts coming of Muhammad

And he is the last prophet..

But this is only for the believers

I believe this is slightly off topic...

I could be wrong though.

No just pointing the fuel why Islam is growing, must come from somewhere

Not all Christians will convert. Not all are expected to. That's not the point of Islam. Though the Saudi pimps make it seem that way, it's pretty clear cut to people who've spent years studying the Qur'an.

What people don't seem to grasp yet, is that the "infidel" (only using that term because it seems to be an ATS favorite) was only the atheist, and the idol worshipper. Islam never had a gripe with Christians, or Jews.

well then as an infidel, i guess taking responsibility for my own decisions (good or bad), along with my own happiness, and not blaming it on someone else (devil, sins, evil, infidel, etc.) makes me an automatic enemy. remember, in america, even liberals are armed, this isn't europe.

Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by TheCoffinman

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2.6 Million out of 320 Million is hardly enough reason to desecrate the American Flag yet again.

Muslims would freak out on anyone that humiliate their book.

I wonder if they would understand if Americans started freaking out in response to the frequent and repeated hostility and false statements made concerning our Flag.

"they"
"they"
"they"

millions of the "they" you speak of ARE Americans.... Do we just get disregarded and ignored in discussions like these?

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
The cristians will convert to islam soon, all of them

Its about the message of Jesus. The church has nothing to do with him.

Well and jesus said

Jesus predicts coming of Muhammad

And he is the last prophet..

But this is only for the believers

I believe this is slightly off topic...

I could be wrong though.

No just pointing the fuel why Islam is growing, must come from somewhere

Not all Christians will convert. Not all are expected to. That's not the point of Islam. Though the Saudi pimps make it seem that way, it's pretty clear cut to people who've spent years studying the Qur'an.

What people don't seem to grasp yet, is that the "infidel" (only using that term because it seems to be an ATS favorite) was only the atheist, and the idol worshipper. Islam never had a gripe with Christians, or Jews.

well then as an infidel, i guess taking responsibility for my own decisions (good or bad), along with my own happiness, and not blaming it on someone else (devil, sins, evil, infidel, etc.) makes me an automatic enemy. remember, in america, even liberals are armed, this isn't europe.

edit on 4-5-2012 by jimmyx because: spelling

Who's armed is of no concern to me. And a persons belief is of no concern to Muslims, as nowhere in the Qur'an does it say we're the judge, jury, and executioner. You're not my enemy, so there's really no need to remind me who's armed.

Originally posted by luciddream
Things i heard from a fellow muslim classmate;

-After a casual debate about religion(mostly involving conquering lands), i asked "why did they need to invade others? why couldnt they keep their own religion"(we were discussing about the past in the middle east). He said "how do you suppose to conquer then?..

In Sahih Bukhari, a sacred Hadith to Sunni Muslims who make up about 85% of Muslims worldwide, Muhammad himself stated

"I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24

Prophet Muhammad's farewell address, March 632

"I was ordered to fight all men until they say 'There is no god but Allah."

Islamic Imperialism: A History by Efraim Karsh

yalepress.yale.edu...

If the founder of Islam forced people to submit to Islam by the sword, why would anyone be surprised if Muslims today advocate the same.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

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i'm only concerned about the link posted by the OP displaying an offensive hate image. that muslims are being associated with this viscous dialogue is unfortunate, but I assure you I did not author the site or produce an image meant to humiliate a nation full of people and make it appear another nation of people is responsible for it.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

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I suppose you are muslim?

Maybe I soon will ask you something if thats okey with you?

I am helping an Afghan family become one again. ( This family is in bad condition also in religion)
War has traumatized this family

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
What are we cancer or something???? You can't be serious...

Who writes this #?

Perhaps Muhammad himself.

The founder of Islam was himself a military warlord who spread Islam by the sword (he conquered the Arabian peninsula before he died), so it isn't so surprising that some Muslims choose to follow his example.

In the space of a single decade Muhammad

• Fought 8 major battles,
• Led 18 raids,
• Panned another 38 military operations where others were in command but operating under his orders and strategic direction.

HistoryNet

Major battles were exactly that.

• At Kheibar in 628 C.E., the Muslim army was 2,000 combatants.
• When Muhammad mounted his assault on Mecca (630 C.E.) he did so with 10,000 men.
• And at the Battle of Hunayn a few months later the army numbered 12,000.

Source: Islamic Imperialism: A History by Karsh, E. (2007)

Are Muslims aware that Muhammad was a military leader who spread Islam by the sword?

The Koran and the Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith (scared to Sunnis who make up about 85% of all Muslims worldwide) make it abundantly clear that Muhammad was a military general who spread Islam by the sword.

I haven't had a chance to watch the whole movie.

Do they include the bit where Muhammad burnt people to death for not praying?

Bukhari (11:626)

- "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.' The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'"

Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.

www.quranexplorer.com...

Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī (Arabic: صحيح البخاري‎), is one of the six canonical hadith collections (Al-Kutub Al-Sittah) of Sunni Islam.

Sunni Muslims view this as one of the three most trusted collections of hadith along with Sahih Muslim and al-Muwatta In some circles, it is considered the most authentic book after the Qur'an. The Arabic word sahih translates as authentic or correct
Sahih al-Bukhari

Islam. You couldn't make it up.

reply to post by ollncasino

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Thats the problem it is written, like the bible.

Just think and act with all hearth power.

reply to post by TheCoffinman

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As a woman, I would take up a bloody fight, I will kill without thought, there is no &%%#$$#$@ way you will EVER get me to wear some veil and lower myself to man, as a woman if they want a fight, they will get one...someone tries to take my rights away, it will be a bloodbath and not in the least bit pretty. %(&@& those women hating morons! The only good man is a man who is put in his place by his woman!

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
reply to post by ollncasino

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Thats the problem it is written, like the bible.

Just think and act with all hearth power.

And the biggest problem is that Muhammad led the perfect life. To emulate his life is the most religious thing a Muslim can do.

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad).

The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25

So Muhammad made it clear that after believing in Allah, jihad is the highest thing a good Muslim can do.

reply to post by ollncasino

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still it is written.

What says your hearth about the message of Muhammad or Jesus ( basically the same)

reply to post by ldyserenity

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Oh stop....like that attitude makes things better....

I have been married for 23 years. I respect my wife and our daughters...yes...I was a girl maker...no dudes....

Stalwart resistance sounds fine on paper but it accomplishes nothing....caring, loving and concerned individuals is what makes things happen.

Do you honestly think...for a moment...that without folks like me that love the women in their lives that their could have been a change in the women's rights?....no....we both know that is silly.

It takes humanity...with a heart of love and compassion...to make changes. The problem today...is we are all to distracted with our personal challenges to join together with a common voice....and this...ladies and gentlemen....is the prepared bit of fact you might not be ready to swallow...sorry...but it's true.

The extremist knew exactly what they were doing and created this gigantic rift in the population....those that want to dominate...and those that want to live in peaceful harmony...

Better check your hate stick and make sure it is pointing in the right direction....your GPS seems a little off right now....

Originally posted by TribeOfManyColours
still it is written.

What says your hearth about the message of Muhammad or Jesus ( basically the same)

Jesus preached peace. Muhammad preached Jihad.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr)."

Sahih Bukhari, Book 2, Number 35:

So Muhammad told his followers that they would be rewared in this life by booty or by entry to paradise in the next if they die in Jihad.

Here is a timeline of his life

www.thereligionofpeace.com...

Timeline of Muhammad's Life (A.D)

570 - Born in Mecca
576 - Orphaned upon death of mother
595 - Marries Kadijah - older, wealthy widow
610 - Reports first revelations from angel at age of 40
619 - Protector uncle dies
622 - Emigrates from Mecca to Medina (the Hijra)
623 - Orders raids on Meccan caravans
624 - Battle of Badr (victory)
624 - Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
624 - Orders the assassination of Abu Afak
624 - Orders the assassination of Asma bint Marwan
624 - Orders the assassination of Ka'b al-Ashraf
625 - Battle of Uhud (defeat)
625 - Evicts Nadir Jews
627 - Battle of the Trench (victory)
627 - Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
628 - Signing of the Treaty of Hudaibiya with Mecca
628 - Destruction and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews
629 - Orders first raid into Christian lands at Muta (defeat)
630 - Conquers Mecca by surprise (along with other tribes)
631 - Leads second raid into Christian territory at Tabuk (no battle)
632 - Dies.

If Muhammad was an enthusiastic Jihadist and told his followers to be the same, in what sense is Islam a religion of peace?

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