reply to post by rigel4
If they are out there... which I am positive they are. They do not need us to tell them where we are, they already know.
Should we be telling the Aliens where we are.., page 1
Topic started on 29-4-2012 @ 07:15 PM by rigel4
I have thought about this before, but not recently, until i just finished watching the new film
"Battleship".
www.imdb.com...
The film is about NASA's broadcast to "Planet G" announcing where the location of Earth is. NASA finds the planet in the "Goldy-lox" zone, A term they are using to describe planets with Characteristics much like our own.
In other words planets that might be habitable based on our own Planet Earth.
Anyway the signal reaches Planet G , and the aliens send a small advance recon group, They are high tech, reptilian and very very dangerous. Fortunately they lose their comms ship on entry to Earth, and the battle begins, if they are allowed
to "Phone home" Human kind is doomed.
So my question is should Scientists be sending signals announcing our presence, and should they instead be figuring out ways to hide us from detection rather advertising our world to god knows what out there!!
Over to you.
"Battleship".
www.imdb.com...
The film is about NASA's broadcast to "Planet G" announcing where the location of Earth is. NASA finds the planet in the "Goldy-lox" zone, A term they are using to describe planets with Characteristics much like our own.
In other words planets that might be habitable based on our own Planet Earth.
Anyway the signal reaches Planet G , and the aliens send a small advance recon group, They are high tech, reptilian and very very dangerous. Fortunately they lose their comms ship on entry to Earth, and the battle begins, if they are allowed
to "Phone home" Human kind is doomed.
So my question is should Scientists be sending signals announcing our presence, and should they instead be figuring out ways to hide us from detection rather advertising our world to god knows what out there!!
Over to you.
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:29 PM by CADCatiaMan
reply to post by rigel4
I have always thought this way too.
I remember back as a freshman in High School, arguing with my science teacher about this very subject. He, of course, was all for broadcasting our location to the rest of anything that may be living. I argued the fact rather simply: "If we can't reach them but our signals can, what if they can hear our signals and CAN, reach us? What if they mean to kick our butts and pillage the Earth of resources"?
Needless to say I was laughed at and keep it to myself now. Excluding ATS of course.
I have always thought this way too.
I remember back as a freshman in High School, arguing with my science teacher about this very subject. He, of course, was all for broadcasting our location to the rest of anything that may be living. I argued the fact rather simply: "If we can't reach them but our signals can, what if they can hear our signals and CAN, reach us? What if they mean to kick our butts and pillage the Earth of resources"?
Needless to say I was laughed at and keep it to myself now. Excluding ATS of course.
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:31 PM by Cosmic911
Stephen Hawking had a few thoughts about this scenario.
Hawking: Humans should fear aliens.
He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is "a little too risky". He said: "If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans."
Hawking: Humans should fear aliens.
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:32 PM by rigel4
reply to post by CADCatiaMan
That is what i think too, you gota err on the side of caution in my opinion, sometime in the future
we might look like a good larder to something out there that is short of a food supply!
That is what i think too, you gota err on the side of caution in my opinion, sometime in the future
we might look like a good larder to something out there that is short of a food supply!
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:32 PM by Mapkar
reply to post by Cole87
I don't think that's a valid way to look at it. What if they are out there and they're looking just as hard as we are?
I don't think that's a valid way to look at it. What if they are out there and they're looking just as hard as we are?
Cant remember the name of the movie tho. 
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:38 PM by Druscilla
reply to post by rigel4
Yes, yelling out little heads off for any alien anywhere to come say 'hello' is fine by me.
If they show up and they happen to be hostile like Klingons, Kzinti, Predator, whatever, then, cool. We've then got a uniting factor that all of humanity can get behind, and if we take heavy losses, well, it's sad, but, there'll be less worry regarding overpopulation and competition for dwindling resources.
If we all out lose to the aggro invaders, then, well, we probably deserve it for slacking off on manned space exploration and development of plans to get us off this rock. Oh well.
If some how we manage to survive, then, we've confirmation that we're not the only kid on the block, and we've just run into a bully, so, it might be prudent to work on trying to level up.
Additionally, if we survive, then, we'll likely be able to swag off with at least some captured alien tech to give us legs up.
If it turns out Vulcans, or some other benevolent aliens show up, then, all the better, especially if they're willing to assist.
Best case scenario would be to have the equivalent of merchants roll through our little speck of a spot on the outer reaches of one of the Galactic arms of this Milky Way.
Merchants would swag us up with all sorts of toys and tech.
Refugees like with the movie District 9, or the Alien Nation series might also be interesting.
What might be even nicer is chancing upon a derelict craft, or finding the remains of old facilities on places like the moon, Mars, the asteroid belt, Any moons of any other planets, or floating around in the Trojan or Lagrange points of any gravity well.
Anything derelict and abandoned would be free swag.
I'm partial to hostiles coming along to shake us up like with the new series Falling Skies.
Zombies would be nice too, but, aliens will work.
Yes, yelling out little heads off for any alien anywhere to come say 'hello' is fine by me.
If they show up and they happen to be hostile like Klingons, Kzinti, Predator, whatever, then, cool. We've then got a uniting factor that all of humanity can get behind, and if we take heavy losses, well, it's sad, but, there'll be less worry regarding overpopulation and competition for dwindling resources.
If we all out lose to the aggro invaders, then, well, we probably deserve it for slacking off on manned space exploration and development of plans to get us off this rock. Oh well.
If some how we manage to survive, then, we've confirmation that we're not the only kid on the block, and we've just run into a bully, so, it might be prudent to work on trying to level up.
Additionally, if we survive, then, we'll likely be able to swag off with at least some captured alien tech to give us legs up.
If it turns out Vulcans, or some other benevolent aliens show up, then, all the better, especially if they're willing to assist.
Best case scenario would be to have the equivalent of merchants roll through our little speck of a spot on the outer reaches of one of the Galactic arms of this Milky Way.
Merchants would swag us up with all sorts of toys and tech.
Refugees like with the movie District 9, or the Alien Nation series might also be interesting.
What might be even nicer is chancing upon a derelict craft, or finding the remains of old facilities on places like the moon, Mars, the asteroid belt, Any moons of any other planets, or floating around in the Trojan or Lagrange points of any gravity well.
Anything derelict and abandoned would be free swag.
I'm partial to hostiles coming along to shake us up like with the new series Falling Skies.
Zombies would be nice too, but, aliens will work.
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:53 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by rigel4
The film is about NASA's broadcast to "Planet G" announcing where the location of Earth is. NASA finds the planet in the "Goldy-lox" zone, A term they are using to describe planets with Characteristics much like our own.
In other words planets that might be habitable based on our own Planet Earth.
Oh THAT old thing yeah....
Planet "G" is Planet Gliese 581D right in the Goldilocks zone of the 6 planet system Gliese 581. We collected messages and they are on their way now.... you can read the messages and see the time remaining;
(17years: 297days: 19hours: 12minutes: 26seconds at this mark)
here
www.hellofromearth.net...
The Top message from an Australian was this...
Hello Gliese 581d inhabitant. Can you help us humans travel through space and become smart like you. Please do not eat us we are a friendly race. Angus Pigott Canberra, Australia
I am NOT making this up
www.hellofromearth.net...
The Gliese 581 system is a mere 20.5 light years away and they have been watching our TV and radio for over 50 years
Gliese 581 (also known as HO Librae) is a red dwarf star with spectral type M3V, located about 20 light years away from Earth in the constellation Libra. Its estimated mass is about a third of that of the Sun, and it is the 89th closest known star to the Sun. Observations suggest that the star has a large planetary system consisting of at least six planets: Gliese 581 e, b, c, d, f and g. g is thought to be a candidate for habitability.
en.wikipedia.org...
ETA Gleise 581g was discovered after the message was sent to Gliese581d but since they are close it shouldn't matter
edit on 29-4-2012 by zorgon because: (no reason given)
reply posted on 29-4-2012 @ 07:59 PM by rigel4
reply to post by Druscilla
To be honest my gut instinct, regardless of what the science tells us, FTL
is a given.Our puny minds aren't ready to figure this yet, but my assumption is that
advanced aliens will be able to go FLT.
To be honest my gut instinct, regardless of what the science tells us, FTL
is a given.Our puny minds aren't ready to figure this yet, but my assumption is that
advanced aliens will be able to go FLT.
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