“Ron Paul WILL be the next POTUS! This is HOW it will happen”!, page 1


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Topic started on 28-4-2012 @ 01:39 PM by Propulsion
I had the opportunity for the first time to watch some Josh Tolley You Tube videos earlier today on another ATS thread. I was absolutely sickened by what he had to say about the current issues taking place in our electoral process. It’s not that I didn’t already know about the corruption taking place, I just hate being reminded of how bad it is.

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When I first saw this particular video (below), I was absolutely blown away! RP could actually win this! I’m not the biggest RP fan running around out there. As an independent, I usually love sitting on the side lines watching both the right and left fight & bicker over their indifferences. On the most part, I find it quite comical.

I have grown quite fond of RP. And it’s not only because of his stances on this, that, and everything else, it’s because he is the one candidate who has the ballz to stand up against all those who are trying their hardest to knock him down. The MSM has done nothing but throw RP under the bus at every turn. Their all-out lies and discontent towards RP is only fueling my need to support him even more.

I know there are many who are anti-Ron Paul, and might have a difficult time having to sit thru a pro Ron Paul video. If you don’t want to hear the whole video, just start it off at 2:27, and listen from there. PLEASE give me your thoughts on this. I would love to hear an opinion from both sides of the isle. This thread is all about the content in the video. I would appreciate it if we would put all empathies towards that.


Thanks a bunch....!
-Propulsion....
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reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 01:56 PM by Germanicus
reply to post by Doalrite



Do you know he can still run as an Independant through americanselect?

He can.

google it.
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reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 02:19 PM by schuyler
Ron Paul will not win the nomination. The only way he could win is for him to pick up every single one of the remaining 770 delegates to be chosen, PLUS somehow get both Santorum's and Gingrich's delegates for himself. Given where he stands now that would put him 22 delegates over the required 1144. Romney needs less than 300 more delegates to win. Paul needs over 1,000.

Paul does very well in caucus states because his people are very well organized. Paul DOES NOT do well in primary states where people actually get to vote. So far he has earned about 11% of the votes. Some of the primaries coming up are big, such as California. All Paul has to do is lose one and he's through.

Outkast Searcher has
a thread right here that explains the issue in depth, including the issue of bound and unbound delegates. This post here gives a similar accounting.

Paul's supporters attempt to explain this away with accounting methods that would make Enron's accountants look like choirboys. Technically Romney isn't there yet, so they have this forelorn hope that everything, literally everything will go Paul's way -- from now on. They like to say that everyone who is keeping track, from WSJ to the green papers, is completely wrong and misleading. They count states as "won" that haven't even had their state conventions yet. And they'll lie and cheat to get their way. One happy supporter said, "Romney beat Paul by 13% in the popular vote, but Paul got over 50% of the delegates!" Wow, sure sounds fair to me. I don't know which election he was talking about.

I've seen these folks in action. They aren't civilized. The interrupt conventions by shouting from the floor. Their whole modus operandi is one of disruption and sowing confusion. If they can take over a state convention with sleight of hand, they'll do it in a second. They think if they just shout louder, they'll win. I've seen it in action and it feels like a mob mentality.

The fact is that Paul's popular vote of 11% is doing less well than most third-party candidates. (Yes, I know he's currently running as a GOP) Ross Perot got over 18% of the actual vote in 1992. George Wallace got 14% in 1968. In other words, Paul doesn't have a snowball's chance in getting the nomination. Everyone knows it except for Paul's supporters.

It'll be a few weeks yet, but prepare for a round of "I told you so's" directed at Paul supporters. Of course, by then they'll be saying Paul was "cheated" out of the nomination. That's to be expected of this crowd. delusional til the end.


reply posted on 28-4-2012 @ 10:53 PM by hoochymama
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This video and thread have nothing to do with the "hard" count conspiracy. This is a thread about an alternative way for RP to be POTUS. Thank you.
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