We Gotta Get out of This Place!

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Par Excellence my freind! Thank you!



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...and then there is this, we are like the Stepford children today.

Isn't that what tbtb want.

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Yes, that, and this too.

This is what "they" want.

Katy Perry Stars in U.S. Marine Corps Recruitment
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Ok so other than your iTunes playlist and a brief rehash of what everyone already knows: what's your point? Why did you post this?

Don't think it can't happen here


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reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Well written! History does have a tendency of repeating itself..

On a "positive" note..
"All happiness for man must arise exclusively only in relation to some unhappiness, already experienced." ~ Gurdjieff

This thread brought another great song that I think fits here. It was extremely prophetic then as it is now.
I consider it a warning...

S&F, subscribed. Great thread from what I have read, thus far. Will come back to finish reading, etc. Thanks. ATP

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If there were ever a post to star and flag, this would be it. I can't even watch the youtube videos at work, but the writing was astonishingly clear and on point for such a masterful job of word-play and association.

Standing ovation if that's possible....

I think the best part - you simply hang it out and let the reader come to a conclusion of their own making.

Originally posted by tangonine
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Ok so other than your iTunes playlist and a brief rehash of what everyone already knows: what's your point? Why did you post this?

haters gonna hate.

why intervene in vietnam. because communist russia was the enemy of the united states.

they were intervening and influencing the country of vietnam and enslaving its people.

are you going to stand by and claim to be the greatest country in the world and watch a poor people with limited weapons fight your enemies, a superpower (ussr) and it's ally (china), its combined weapons, manpower and resources, alone.

while you stand back and do nothing. while a few peasant people stand, fight and die bravely against this evil force about to engulf them.

Originally posted by FortAnthem

Originally posted by Aquarius1
Protest songs had a big influence in the sixies and during the Viet Nam war, along comes the seventies and it all went away, in fact there have been no major protests since that time, are we so used to war that we don't care any longer, guess it's easier to listen to Rock n' Roll.

Ain't that the truth. Nowadays we hear some mild anti-war stuff but, for the most part, the songs that get the real airplay are the ones that are hard-core Pro-USA garbage.

I like country music and listen to it a lot when driving but, when some of that flag waving garbage comes on, I just have to switch the station because this stuff makes me want to throw up.
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When are people gonna learn that the best way to "support our troops" (

) is to demand that we bring them home, away from the danger of occupying a country that doesn't want our troops there and never asked for our help in the first place.

This classic “War Is A Racket” by Major General Smedley Butler (once Commandant of the USMC) should be read by everyone.

Here’s the link to the Adobe PDF

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“In 1933, Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler was approached by a wealthy and secretive group of industrialists and bankers, including Prescott Bush the current President's grandfather, who asked him to command a 500,000 strong rogue army of veterans that would help stage a coup to topple then President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.”

Read the BBC article here:

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Originally posted by randomname
why intervene in vietnam. because communist russia was the enemy of the united states.

they were intervening and influencing the country of vietnam and enslaving its people.

are you going to stand by and claim to be the greatest country in the world and watch a poor people with limited weapons fight your enemies, a superpower (ussr) and it's ally (china), its combined weapons, manpower and resources, alone.

while you stand back and do nothing. while a few peasant people stand, fight and die bravely against this evil force about to engulf them.

I strongly recommend you see “The Fog of War” – an interview of Robert Strange McNamara (US Secretary of Defense from 1961 – 1968) about the Vietnam War (among other things). One of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen.

It was a civil war we should not have interfered with. Countless people were killed or had their lives shattered to make the Rich richer.

I wonder if Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove wasn’t an amalgam of Wernher von Braun and McNamara.

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S&F Well done. A condensation of the last 50 years a la Rolling Stone with each music video mirroring the changes.

The "Age of Aquarius" is more than 2,000 years away. (The Hippies were using the wrong zodiac.)

This civilization will crash soon.

And I have real doubts humankind will survive another 2,000+ years to ever see the Dawning of Aquarius.

Thank you everyone, for taking the time to read this thread and post your comments. A few comments to some who pointed out factual errors or poorly phrased facts that had the effect of error. Tom and Jerry made their broadcast debut on CBS in 1965, which was what I was referring to in terms of their "birth". It was an ambiguous statement, and one truly born of my own personal experience of Tom and Jerry, than one of research. In terms of the history of the blues, it has a long unrecorded history and of course the blues are a product of African slaves brought to America. I used the word "probably" when suggesting it was the first indigenous music of the United States, because I cannot prove this, and arguably jazz might truly be the first indigenous music of the U.S., but I thought it worth granting the blues a nod in terms of its influence, and that it is truly American music at its finest.

There were just a few who seemed perplexed, or confused on what this thread is really about. I suspect that for most reading this thread, they fully understand what it is about, and what it is about goes far beyond nostalgia. I was still in diapers when JFK was assassinated and have no conscious memory of this event, and both my parents were closer to Don and Sally Draper than they were Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda. Although, my mother used to always yammer on how she and my father were once friends with Harvey Milk, whom my mother always used to say was; "the nicest guy in the world", but I had no idea who this Harvey Milk was or why he mattered so much to my mother.

Both my parents were far bigger fans of Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Patti Page, Patsy Kline, and even earlier musicians such as Glenn Miller. This was the music that played in the Zodeaux household while I was still a child. I didn't discover the absolute joy of rock n roll until I was around 13 years old. I was invited to see a play written by a playwright who has used me as an actor in an earlier play he wrote. This play was about a disaffected son of a publishing mogul. Early in the play, the son is being nagged relentlessly by both his mother and father, and as their nagging gets louder and more insistent, the son walks over to a turn table, takes a record out and puts it on the turntable, and suddenly the speakers were blasting with The Rolling Stones "I Can't Get No Satisfaction".

It took my breath away. I was stunned. I was shocked. I couldn't believe I had never heard such music that spoke so clearly and simply to the frustrations I was struggling with. These Rolling Stones sure as hell weren't The Carpenters or Captain and Tennille. With my next bit of allowance I went to the record store and bought High Tides and Green Grass and played that record over and over and over. By the time I was in high school, I had discovered much more than just The Rolling Stones, among these discoveries was The Animals. At 13 years old I hadn't a clue about politics, or law. I was being taught, however - in a public school - about the Civil Rights Movement, and throughout the remainder of that public school education, I was diligently taught all about my "civil rights".

It was long after I graduated from high school that I began to discern the difference between unalienable rights and civil rights. I went straight to college right after high school, and in a civic government class in college, I learned how very important our own signature on contracts are, so as I began to wake up to the reality that much of what I had been "taught" was nothing more than indoctrination and propaganda, I began digging underneath the surface of this thing we call The American Dream.

When I was a kid, no police agency ever came and shut down my lemonade stand, even though the foundations for such absurdity was all ready fully in place. I was taught how to file a valid tax return in my 9th grad business economics. No discussion of liability was ever had, and we were implicitly taught that if we earned income that this meant we were subject to a tax code that no one understands. When I got my first drivers license at 16 years of age, I have no recollection of reading any signs on the walls of the DMV asserting that driving was a privilege and not a right, nor do I recollect reading any such assertion in the driving test manual. It was only years later that I began to see these dubious assertions being made by government, and I cannot honestly say if that is because government had only just begun making these absurd assertions, or if it was because I was just beginning to notice them.

The "place" lies in that difference. I was once in a place where "America was the freest country in the world" and now I am in a different place. Geographically I reside in the same nation, but I exist in a different place than those of my childhood perceptions. I do not wish to return to my childhood, I instead wish to be free. That's the better place for us all.

I dig this thread.

Though I'm a good bit younger than that generation, a lot of its music still speaks to me (and others of Generation Y)...

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman comes to the door,
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes,

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no.

A lil somethin from my generation...

I declare war on the world
War in outer space
I declare war in a nutshell
War all over the place

I declare war on every government
War against all odds
I declare war on your inner sanctum
On your bloodthirsty gods

World war three - be all that you can be
World war three

I declare war on the axis of morons
All out war on complacent consent
I declare war on the war against drugs
Rape and slaughter of the innocent

War on big brother
Warmongers and profiteers
War on your dogma dubya
Armageddon’s engineers

World war three
World war three - be all that you can be
World war three

War in a heartbeat
I declare war on so-called civilization
World trade globalization
Organized disinformation

War on ambassadors of pretense
War on MTV and CNN
McDonald's, Walt Disney, and Bethlehem
On Christina, Britney, and Eminem

I declare war on the world of anti-choice
On violent unilaterality
On the amassment of murderous high-tech toys
And all crimes against humanity

War on the moral majority
On corporate dot com imperialism
On mindlessly bumbling stupidity
And police-state terrorism

World war three
World war three - be all that you can be
World war three - be all that you can be
World war three

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man see that's the total mindfunk... I love Rush dearly because when it really all comes down to it, it is the music that matters the most, how it moves you inside.

Geddy Lee's ideology on the other hand is very socialistic but it is expected because of where he was born and raised... Most all of the lyrics come from Neal Peart though, Geddy just sings them. I would have to look into it but I am not sure how many song lyrics Geddy has wrote for the band... Neil is the mastermind behind the band and some very tragic things have happened to him... his philosophy is changing. Alex and Geddy surely are superb musicians very much a part of what makes that trio what it is.

and here I contribute yet again... A true American understands what's going on around them more so seemingly in real-time, alot of other nations without free and very limited speech it is understandable to a patriot why they can not seem to think outside the self centered box.


the world dreams of peace I am quite sure of that...

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I listen to KMFDM too... though they are not American.

Chemical Brothers ROCK too surely... they are not so jealous and have outward thinking.

different types of thinking can be determined by the lyrics (specially in political based statements in music)




I say Americans are free... and free to leave and live anywhere in the world they wish to leave to, why do some hang around? could it be they are not successful enough to even figure out they they are free to leave, but it takes a few dollar bills to be able to do this.

I'd also say... "don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out"

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the losers cry the loudest, the winners always get the last laugh...