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Quantum decision affects results of measurements taken earlier in time

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posted on May, 18 2012 @ 05:44 PM

Originally posted by nastyxanax
reply to post by Astyanax

The universe is not obliged to conform to our prejudices –

The experiment in the OP and others, prove that at least particles are in fact obliged to do so indeed, the results clearly adapt to the info that is available.

If they didn't conform to our prejudice you wouldn't see an interference pattern every single time the which path info is unknown, or a non interference pattern every single time the path is known, and this even goes for results that happened in the past that somwehow correspond with information gained in the present, like the OP shows.

Again, you are spreading false information and ignoring the evidence of the topic at hand.


'unknown' and 'known' choices in experiment correspond to different configurations of matter and their states.

We typically use the words 'unknown' and 'known' to refer to internal mental states of humans but that's a linguistic self-inflicted confusion.

posted on Mar, 22 2013 @ 08:01 AM
It bothers me that pretty much everyone seems to think of the quantum entanglement as 'communication'.

Does it -HAVE- to be 'communication'?

What if it's just one of the manifestations of omniscience of the Creator (which is the same thing as the Universe, because The Creator created everything from itself, as nothing else existed (and still doesn't))?

In other words, there's no NEED for communication, because the knowledge is already in both parts, no matter what or when happens to what.

posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 09:44 PM
reply to post by Shoujikina

quantum entanglement is a phenomenon that abuses the relative connection between time and causality.

two entangled particles contain direct information about one another, so measuring one affects the other to prevent a violation of the uncertainty principle. the observer who measures one particle perceives an instantaneous change, and it is instant relative to them, but only because a future event (the measurement) necessitates a change in the past (the state of the second particle) for the sake of the uncertainty principle.

the main use of this interesting property, by definition, relates to the transfer of information (which you simplified down to communication). quantum computing and teleportation are also forms of information transfer which use entanglement.

as for the creator creating itself, this is not the case. people mix up the idea of something always existing with the concept of "forever". something can have always existed in a place where time doesn't exist, but the idea of forever requires time.

a being existing outside of time would be an unchanging (everything it would ever be or do would co-exist in a single ever-present reality) absolute. whatever created the universe could not come from the universe because time didn't exist for things in the universe until after it was created.

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