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Don't wait for Social Security check in the mail
Mail drop: Social Security payments, other federal benefits, switching soon to direct deposit
Starting next year, the check will no longer be in the mail for millions of people who receive Social Security and other government benefits.
The federal government, which issues 73 million payments a month, is phasing out paper checks for all benefit programs, requiring people to get payments electronically, either through direct deposit or a debit card for those without a bank account.
Henderson said electronic payments are safer and more efficient than paper checks; in 2010, more than 540,000 federal benefit checks were reported lost or stolen. The switch will save the government about $120 million a year. Social Security will save $1 billion over the next decade, according to the Treasury Department.
"You think of that paper check floating out there in the delivery system, with personal information on it, it's much more susceptible to fraud versus an electronic payment," Henderson said.
Drawing Benefits Via a Debit Card? There's a Fee for That .
Instead of paper checks, Oregon officials pay weekly unemployment benefits by loading the money onto debit cards that come with several unusual fees.
After she found a job last year, 48-year-old Jennifer Schmidt of Riddle, Ore., was charged an "inactivity fee" of $2 by U.S. Bancorp for not using her debit card once she stopped drawing unemployment.
.The $2 fee sank the balance on her card into the red, triggering an overdraft fee of $17.
One reason why financial institutions like prepaid debit cards: They largely escaped the recent crackdown by U.S. lawmakers and regulators on fees, interest rates and billing practices for credit and debit cards.
Last year, 10 state treasurers successfully prodded lawmakers to shield prepaid debit cards from part of the Dodd-Frank financial-overhaul law that limits so-called "swipe fees" charged to retailers. Prepaid debit cards also are exempt from a 2009 law that outlawed fees for infrequent card use. In addition, most of those cards aren't subject to Federal Reserve rules requiring debit-card users to agree before banks can charge them for overdrawing the balance in their account.
Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by FortAnthem
Let me get this straight: you don't like 'big gubment' but want want to live outside the system, 'off grid', but want to collect social security?
Originally posted by FortAnthem
reply to post by Swills
The problem is; with debit cards and by putting money directly into your account, it gives them more opportunity to track your transactions. You can already see the move toward a paperless monetary system. When people can no longer exchange paper bills for good and services, it ensures that the gubment can tax you for every transaction you make.
Say goodbye to the corner lemonade stand and yardsales. If the gubment gets its way, it will be impossible to conduct any type of transaction without paying taxes and business licencing fees. With all electronic payments, the gubment can know what you spent each and every last dollar of your paycheck on.
Do you really want Big Brother to know how much you spend at the titty bar every year? Much less what guns and ammo and survival gear you bought. With the ever expanding definitions of what makes a person a potential "domestic terrorist" I don't want the gubment to have any way to track all of my purchases.
Also imagine if they restrict what you can use the money on the cards for. There are already moves to prevent welfare cards from being used in gambling establishments and for purposes the gubment frowns upon. What if they put all gubment debt cards under the same umbrella as welfare payments?
Originally posted by FortAnthem
Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by FortAnthem
Let me get this straight: you don't like 'big gubment' but want want to live outside the system, 'off grid', but want to collect social security?
They've been taking money out of my paychecks ever since I was old enough to work.
I am entitled to that money in my retirement years. Just because I accept the money that the gubment owes me doesn't mean that I can't have a beef with that gubment. It doesn't make me their slave. If I want to have them deliver my checks to a PO box so I can live away from their ever prying eyes, that should be my right.
Originally posted by stanguilles7
And, most importantly, if you want to live 'off grid', dont collect government checks.
Originally posted by FortAnthem
Accepting a check from the government should not entitle them to invade your privacy.
Originally posted by FortAnthem
reply to post by Swills
Its really a shame that the American people have just come to accept this as their "new normal".
Whether I'm doing something wrong or not, I still don't want the gubment to have the power to snoop into my private life or my financial transactions without probable cause of wrongdoing.
The increasing reliance on computers puts us all at risk of having our personal papers and records invaded at any time without our ever knowing. What's even more alarming is the fact that our electronic records can be hacked and our money stolen right out from under us or some piece of incriminating eveidence can be manufactured without our ever knowing about it.
How many times have they used the "kiddie porn" excuse to get rid of someone inconvenient to the gubment? Think of how easy it would be for a professional gubment hacker to get into your computer and plant all sorts of filthy evidence.
Originally posted by beezzer
Has anyone considered with everything getting paid out electronically, what a "glitch" in the system might do?
Terrorist EMP?
Just a regular blackout from a storm?
Hackers?
Call me old fashioned, or just make me one ( ) but I prefer analog over digital sometimes.
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Originally posted by beezzer
Has anyone considered with everything getting paid out electronically, what a "glitch" in the system might do?
Terrorist EMP?
Just a regular blackout from a storm?
Hackers?
Call me old fashioned, or just make me one ( ) but I prefer analog over digital sometimes.
An EMP could not take out an entire national or multinational computer database.