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Prove george zimmerman actually exists!

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by paradox
pshea, why do you constantly say everything does not exist?

No one in 9/11 exists/they were all fake
George Zimmerman does not exist/he is fake
Apollo 11 did not exist/it was fake
Osama Bin Laden did not exist/Osama is Obama
JFKs murder never existed/it was fake

If I had to wager, I would say you are a complete troll, or have a serious mental disorder.
Get help. It's really weird.
edit on 4-11-12 by paradox because: typo


I never said everything doesn't exist.

But when it comes to the above list of news stories (except the zimmerman issue, which
I have not come to a definitive conclusion yet), Extensive Fakery has been proven beyond all
reasonable doubt. If you don't know this, then you haven't looked in the right places.

You are an official story man on each and every one of the major conspiracies, no?
That tells me all I need to know.

I have no mental illnesses, and do not require help.

Why are you and everyone else 100% sure that zimmerman exists?

This story either accidentally, or was orchestrated to aggravate race relations
in the U.S..
It sure is a strange and convenient story for the dictatorial government (and their
msm lapdogs) to jump on, allowing them to futher their divide and conquer agendas.

Now how difficult would it be to fake this? Not very, is the simple answer.
They have the means, motive and opportunity, and they have used this
exact MO on numerous occasions in the past. It is the safest, cleanest way
to push policies and force agendas.




posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by paradox
pshea, why do you constantly say everything does not exist?

No one in 9/11 exists/they were all fake
George Zimmerman does not exist/he is fake
Apollo 11 did not exist/it was fake
Osama Bin Laden did not exist/Osama is Obama
JFKs murder never existed/it was fake

If I had to wager, I would say you are a complete troll, or have a seriously mental disorder.
Get help. It's really weird.
edit on 4-11-12 by paradox because: (no reason given)


Ok, looked at the profile and you nailed it!

I'll remember this thread in the future as I try not to leave bread crumbs.

Peace


I bet my bottom dollar that you didn't go thru any of the extensive links I have provided
in previous posts, to ascertain whether any of the assertions made held water.

How wise of you jude.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by pshea38
 


Just saying "The MSM lies" is not a default proof of any random, asinine story anyone can come up with, in spite of all actual evidence.


What actual evidence? That is what I am looking for in the OP.
Evidence that zimmerman exists and is not a photoshop creation.

I have seen none.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by onfire49
reply to post by pshea38
 


This is the kind of stuff that makes everyone think all people who believe in conspiracies are like Dale Gribble from king of the hill. Ok so you want proof the man exists? I'm not sure that any one who doesnt know him can prove this definitively. I mean there have been pictures of him from various times, and even though they arent exactly the same a lot can change in a few months let alone a few years. As for the limited number of photographs, how many times do we see news articles where someone commits a murder and the only picture of them is their mugshot? Are all those people possible computer generated images?

Lack of social media presence? Um how many people on ATS dont have one. Even if he did have one I'm sure he took it down very soon after his name was released in this case.

I may be more inclined to believe you if he wasnt charged a few hours ago. So we will have proof there is a George ZImmerman.

Just because something happens doesnt mean there is a conspiracy behind it.


So you cannot offer anything to prove that he exists.

But you believe he does. Why?

Is it because the story was all over the news, and you were filled with
it until you were fed up? Yet only 2 somewhat suspect photographs come
out of the 'biggest' MSM story of the year.

In this day and age? Hmmm.
I see zimmerman has set up a website to collect donations. Again, Hmmm.

I bet that we will never see zimmerman on video.

So ATS blindly trusts the MSM now. Good to know.
edit on 11-4-2012 by pshea38 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by pshea38
 


Just saying "The MSM lies" is not a default proof of any random, asinine story anyone can come up with, in spite of all actual evidence.


What actual evidence? That is what I am looking for in the OP.
Evidence that zimmerman exists and is not a photoshop creation.

I have seen none.



So what, then, would you consider definitive proof if eveything in the media is a lie and you dont trust any photos of him?

You could EASILY fly down to florida and request to visit him in his cell.OR contact his family. You know, DO something.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by webpirate
reply to post by pshea38
 


OK. So then if he doesn't exist then who shot Travyon? I know it wasn't me. Was it you? Who shot him? There was never any question about who it was. Only why.
And what would the purpose be for making him up anyways?
What doesn't make sense is this thread.


Why was there never a question about who?
How foolish.

Take a look at some of the photos of trayvon. There is something not quite right, right?
Is trayvon williams also a photoshop creation? I think it is a distinct possibility that
the whole thing was faked.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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You can allways try calling.
www.411.com...



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38


I never said everything doesn't exist.


Most of reality seems to be a hoax to you.



You are an official story man on each and every one of the major conspiracies, no?
That tells me all I need to know.


Actually, I'm not really, especially on 9/11. But that does not mean I think all the victims were fake. That's just going too far. But that's for another topic.



I have no mental illnesses, and do not require help.


Well then it seems you may just be a victim of paranoia and too much conspiracy talk. I know first hand the effects of involving yourself in too many conspiracies. You start to lose touch with reality. My suggestion would be to take a break from ATS and any other conspiracy reading you do. Trust me, the world is far less sinister than it appears to you.



Why are you and everyone else 100% sure that zimmerman exists?


Why are you so sure he does not?
There are pictures, voice recordings, witnesses, he has lawyers, his family has been interviewed, etc. But I'm sure you believe they are also all paid actors for some reason.



This story either accidentally, or was orchestrated to aggravate race relations
in the U.S..
It sure is a strange and convenient story for the dictatorial government (and their
msm lapdogs) to jump on, allowing them to futher their divide and conquer agendas.


I agree with you. This story was jumped on and manipulated to make Zimmerman look like a bad guy who killed the innocent little black child they portrayed Martin to be, but that does not mean the story is fabricated. Just taken advantage of.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by pshea38
 


OP, prove to me you aren't George Zimmerman.


No.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by jlv70
Here's his latest photo.

His mugshot from the Seminole County Sheriff.





Thanks for posting. I didn't see this in an image search.

To me this looks like a mash up of the two photos in the OP.
(eyes, beard stuble etc.-photo1. hair, ears etc.-photo2).
This really looks like it could be a digital creation.

How do the nose shadow and the neck shadows reconcile here?
Where exactly do you think the light source is?

Anyone else think that he looks like justin timberlake?


do you remember the arizona shooter. that mugshot was spliced with glenn beck.

same thing with this one.

photoshop killer (actors) playing the part to distract the masses from whats really going on



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by paradox

Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by JayFlores
Let me get this straight... Google only has 2 pics of him so therefore he must not exist? Google has none of me, so how am I typing this? Please, at least come up with a reasonable explanation for your dribble


FFS! Were you involved in one of the biggest story of the year, covered
by a multitude of MSM oulets, hour in hour out, day in day out?

Your reasoning is BS!


How many photos would be enough for you, princess?


More than 3 (each with a blank background), the likes of which my 9 year
old son could knock together in 10 minutes using the morphases programme I linked
to in the OP.

But obviously our standards of proof differ.

How easily you believe without proof, and how routinely you dis-believe with proof.
Paradox indeed!



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by JayFlores
Let me get this straight... Google only has 2 pics of him so therefore he must not exist? Google has none of me, so how am I typing this? Please, at least come up with a reasonable explanation for your dribble


FFS! Were you involved in one of the biggest story of the year, covered
by a multitude of MSM oulets, hour in hour out, day in day out?

Your reasoning is BS!


Yes, let's talk about reasoning.

Using your reasoning, how does constant coverage of this topic mean that he should have more images available in an internet search? He hasn't done any interviews, and has been in hiding since he was released on the night he killed Martin. If his family isn't handing out photos to the media, how does that mean he doesnt exist?

If you're a troll, you are an epic one and i tip my hat to thee.


Would his family and friends not want him to be portayed in a certain positive light?
Wouldn't it help his cause if friendly and family oriented photos were published?
Wouldn't the media have been on the look-out for any and all new photographs,
considering the story ran for so long? I am sure they would have paid.
Where are his friends on facebook etc. posting pictures of themselves and zimmerman,
seeking to garner public support for their friend?

Nothing. Just three suspect and easily fabricated photographs, all with blank backgrounds.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:16 PM
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I tell you what....I spend enough time talking to myself as it is it seems. First, prove to ME that YOU exist. Then I shall prove that both parties involved in this incident do...or did exist.

For all anyone knows you're just a computer generated troll.



edit on 11-4-2012 by webpirate because: spelling



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38
I think it is a distinct possibility that
the whole thing was faked.


Okay, here is a question that I am sure I will regret asking, but I am going to ask it anyway.....

Why? What would be the point in faking the murder of a previously unknown black kid, by a previously unknown Mexican guy?

I have a gut feeling as to what your answer is going to be...I am curious if I am right.
edit on 11-4-2012 by gimme_some_truth because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by pshea38
 


Just saying "The MSM lies" is not a default proof of any random, asinine story anyone can come up with, in spite of all actual evidence.


What actual evidence? That is what I am looking for in the OP.
Evidence that zimmerman exists and is not a photoshop creation.

I have seen none.



So what, then, would you consider definitive proof if eveything in the media is a lie and you dont trust any photos of him?

You could EASILY fly down to florida and request to visit him in his cell.OR contact his family. You know, DO something.


EASILY. Yeah right. You can bet your life that his family won't talk to strangers,
and that strangers will not be permitted to see 'him'.

Some normal video and photographs would go a long way to persuade.
So far, all ther is is a story. And a story can be true or false, or anywhere
in between, depending on who is doing the reporting, and why.

Please tell me how you have convinced yourself that zimmerman indeed exists.

I assume you have a keen sense of the levels of lies propogated by the MSM in
the past, and you have come to require extra-ordinary levels of proof when dealing
with anything coming from known and proven liars.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by infowarrior9970

Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by jlv70
Here's his latest photo.

His mugshot from the Seminole County Sheriff.





Thanks for posting. I didn't see this in an image search.

To me this looks like a mash up of the two photos in the OP.
(eyes, beard stuble etc.-photo1. hair, ears etc.-photo2).
This really looks like it could be a digital creation.

How do the nose shadow and the neck shadows reconcile here?
Where exactly do you think the light source is?

Anyone else think that he looks like justin timberlake?


do you remember the arizona shooter. that mugshot was spliced with glenn beck.

same thing with this one.

photoshop killer (actors) playing the part to distract the masses from whats really going on


I believe you are being sarcastic, but what you say is true. Loughner was
a digitallly created villain with no real existence and the arizona 'shootings'
are a proven faked/staged event.
www.cluesforum.info....
This is conclusive.

The eyes look weird in the zimmerman photo above.
A little too close together.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by webpirate
reply to post by pshea38
 


I tell you what....I spend enough time talking to myself as it is it seems. First, prove to ME that YOU exist. Then I shall prove that both parties involved in this incident do...or did exist.

.



edit on 11-4-2012 by webpirate because: spelling


Are you on skype?
I could prove it this minute!

So Put up, or Shut up



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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You still haven't answered my original question. If he isn't real, then who shot the guy in the hoodie? And why? And then why make such an elaborate hoax? I believe there is way more going on in the world today than to worry about someone creating a "fake" human to shoot someone who you yourself even just said might also be fake.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by pshea38
I think it is a distinct possibility that
the whole thing was faked.


Okay, here is a question that I am sure I will regret asking, but I am going to ask it anyway.....

Why? What would be the point in faking the murder of a previously unknown black kid, by a previously unknown Mexican guy?

I have a gut feeling as to what your answer is going to be...I am curious if I am right.
edit on 11-4-2012 by gimme_some_truth because: (no reason given)


Well I have my own views on this which I won't go into right now, but I believe
that this whole story has been concocted for the benifit and education of the public.

Superficially though, to bump support for obama, encourage public unrest with divide
and conquer tactics, to provide more ammunition for the removal of guns from the public etc. etc.

But the early unwise comments by obama, the early release of manipulative photographs,
the selective and blatantly deceptive reporting of the 911 conversations etc. etc. are
a little too obvious and overtly incriminating.

I think that we are meant to take note of those who have been made to look bad in this case.



posted on Apr, 12 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by pshea38

I think that we are meant to take note of those who have been made to look bad in this case.


Well...for one...the editor for NBC who got caught using creative license in posting images as well as selective editing in the 911 tape was one of those who ended up looking pretty bad in my opinion.



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