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My conspiratorial mind was thinking that the military did not want anyone with prozac in them because the fluoride would cloud their judgement and reaction time.
Originally posted by Leftist
A fog of drugs and war
(visit the link for the full news article)
After two long-running wars with escalating levels of combat stress, more than 110,000 active-duty Army troops last year were taking prescribed antidepressants, narcotics, sedatives, antipsychotics and anti-anxiety drugs, according to figures recently disclosed to The Times by the U.S. Army surgeon general. Nearly 8% of the active-duty Army is now on sedatives and more than 6% is on antidepressants — an eightfold increase since 2005.
Originally posted by rebellender
Mainstream America is taking so much of the drugs it is effecting the municipal water systems across the Fruited Plain.
SEX CHANGE IN FISH FOUND COMMON
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by usmc0311
Can i just ask you something? Did you not know that you were going in and attacking another country that had done nothing to your own? Please I don't want to come across as though I'm attacking you. I just genuinely want to understand why soldiers go to a war most other people know is unjustified and immoral.
Couldn't you have just told them to stick it? Couldn't you of refused?
I do want to commend you for doing the right thing now though and I'm glad you got off the drugs and are feeling better for it.
I do understand you, I just don't think it is right. I mean if you were told to go massacre a village, you're telling me that you would just go do it because it is not for you to question. This is a big problem and it has allowed genocide around the world. It is what allowed hitler to get where he did.
Seems like pretty good motivation to obey any order you're given, right? Nope. These articles require the obedience of LAWFUL orders. An order which is unlawful not only does not need to be obeyed, but obeying such an order can result in criminal prosecution of the one who obeys it. Military courts have long held that military members are accountable for their actions even while following orders -- if the order was illegal.
"I was only following orders," has been unsuccessfully used as a legal defense in hundreds of cases (probably most notably by Nazi leaders at the Nuremberg tribunals following World War II). The defense didn't work for them, nor has it worked in hundreds of cases since.
. . .The Court of Military Appeals held that "the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal." (Interestingly, the soldier who gave Keenan the order, Corporal Luczko, was acquitted by reason of insanity).
Personally I would never join the army in the first place because I know enough to know that you do not fight for the people, you fight for politicians. I know you will most likely vehemently disagree here but we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge
reply to post by usmc0311
"I will never forgive the government for the things I have been through"
Like what, I am just curious as a person who supports our troops no matter what, unlike some others here at ATS.
Send me a U2U if you need to.
The whole warrior class thing is rather odd... It comes across like, "yeah we be killers! Word". Sorry but I gotta be honest.
You say it was good to get rid of sadam, really? So it's a better place over there now would you say?
Originally posted by usmc0311. We either run into people who constantly thank us for what we do or people that constantly berate us as well. Neither of which we appreciate
Originally posted by usmc0311
reply to post by Monger
I guess with myself and many others I know it just makes us uncomfortable becuase it is hard to tell why some people thank us. But in the case you stated I fully understand and I hope that we can be looked at like that one day, but with the complexity of the situation of these current wars, I don't believe it will be the same.
Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
I had the same thing happen to me a while back.
I believe it may be the source you cited, was it SOTT by chance? ATS has disqualified them because they have spread lies about ATS.
I think the mods should send out a member wide u2 so that everyone is aware.