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reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 03:52 PM by navy_vet_stg3
reply to post by InsideYourMind


If you don't buy the CD, then BMI doesn't pay the artist. It's theft. My dad recorded with Capital in the late 50's, and still gets a check (a couple dollars is all) from time to time. However, if someone copies it, he won't get paid, therefore it's theft.


reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 04:28 PM by hombero
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


Hard to steal something intangible.. How can downloading music be considered theft when nobody is losing anything?
One can argue that the artist did not get paid, but there's no way to prove that the downloader would have paid money if these things weren't freely available in the first place.

Theft = taking something from somebody, thereby denying them access to something they own, this is just not the case with software/music/video piracy.


reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 04:35 PM by brice
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Welcome to the new millennia! New economies, new technology! Some flourish some die. Sales of music will die but concert sales should go up making the artists millions by eliminating the crooked middle men (like Colonal Tom Parker)
If an artist is popular enough ticket buyers will happily pay $500 to $2500 per seat and when arenas hold 50,000+ seats, I think the performance artists will survive just fine.
Just my opinion.
brice


reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 04:39 PM by VonDoomen
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just because someone downloaded something doesnt mean they would have bought it if that was their only option.

besides, id rather support a band by going to their concert where they actually make money. Buying the cd just pays the record company basically. the actual musician gets a very low cut of that.


reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 04:45 PM by el1jah
reply to post by VonDoomen



Right on, if we were paying directly to the artists the equivalent of what they are paid, we would be spending $2 on every album we buy, I wouldn'y even bother downloading.



reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 04:53 PM by Thisbseth
reply to post by Zarniwoop



Nice thought, I looked it up shortly after reading the article. And it didn't cross my mind until now that it might be marketing for it. But anyways most have different opinions on this matter (Everyone always does) And my opinion is that the corporations are making way to much money off artists. and charging so much for cd's isn't fair. Its a money making scheme that effects both the artist and the buyer. Pirating just cuts out the big guy and also making the middle man famous. Like movies, i remember a movie ( forgot which one) but it was like the most pirated movie, then turned into the most sold dvd of that year or something along those lines. Pirating helps us all, and throws a middle finger to the money making schemers. Anywho that's my opinion on this matter, thanks to all who gave an opinion.
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reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 05:16 PM by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to
post by navy_vet_stg3



. Buying the cd just pays the record company basically. the actual musician gets a very low cut of that.


Lots of muso's self-publish now.

It costs thousands of $$'s to make their own CD to a high standard if they do not have the ability to do it themselves - even with friends volunteering studios & engineering time - I've got 3 friends who have done so - 1 of them 1 album for a charity, the other 2 2 albums each of their own and cover music.

They charge $25/CD & AFAIK none of them have made their money back.


reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 05:39 PM by Just Chris
They definitely is two sides to this story.

On one hand, what PirateBay is doing is effectively killing (albeit slowly with little jabs to the ribs!) the music industry, or at least killing the ambition of future music artists that want to jump into the market. The less money the artist makes, the less music that's going to be produced for our entertainment. That's the concept. Do the record labels really care about this though? Of course not, they're in it for the money, and that's why PirateBay refuses to give up on this battle.

On the other hand, the future of the music industry started changing as soon as the Internet launched. If there's a way for somebody to attain free music, it's always going to happen, period! iTunes, Spotify and many others have tried to become the middleman and sell music readily available to download for pence and cents, but still this makes no difference. People want NEW music they hear on the radio NOW, and they want it for FREE.

Humans are so accustomed to music that they don't physically feel a monetary value to what they hear. In other words, music is taken for granted, and therefore the value must be deemed worthless.

Do Facebook and Twitter users get in trouble for "Sharing" and "Liking" YouTube and other content on they're social profiles....NO. But why not...what really is the difference between "Sharing" content/information over the Internet and doing what PirateBay is doing and "Seeding" content? They isn't any.

The Digital revolution is here, and the old-timers don't like it. Unfortunately this isn't going to get any better for them, so they may as well adapt and change and start making revenue by othermeans. ie, charge more for Concerts, etc as another user simply suggested.

Go PirateBay!
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