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Originally posted by CaptainNemo
Originally posted by Sly1one
Amenhotep I,II,III,IV
Amun Ra (aka Amen Ra)
"Amen" definitely seems as originally Egyptian...It makes sense to me that the old/new testaments of Christianity would recycle old information/terms/etc or simply mistranslate them. Another good example of the bible using outside works is the epic of Gilgamesh.
The bible old or new is like a collective plagiarized older works/stories of various civilizations. For this reason I would speculate that the term Amen is most likely originally Egyptian…
So where's the forensic, linguistic, or ethnological evidence that the Genesis flood story is a copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh?
Following your logic, we would have to assume that since the Sumerians were the first ordered civilization every similar story thereafter would have to be a copy of it. That is, that the other 150+ cultures, who have global flood stories are liars.
These stories originated through word of mouth, and there were nomadic peoples before the Sumerians who told this story. Mesopotamia having the resources, needs, and knowledge to write, wrote the story down FIRST to preserve it. That certainly does not mean the other tales are untrue, that's just preposterous.
Word of mouth stories have the ability to drastically be changed through the years. Gilgamesh wasn't even the only survivor of the flood. It's highly plausible that the story is so different from Genesis because it was changed to become more of a national, prideful hym to Sumeria, per se.
The Semitic language family includes the Near East region, and the Middle East region. So this includes Mesopotamia and Israel. The word Semitic is derived from the biblical character Shem. Shem, being one of Noah's sons after the flood. Also, the first settlers of the fertile crescent were nomadic peoples that came in from the south. SO, almost without a shadow of a doubt we can say that infact the, the Epic of Gilgamesh was a more pride-centric version of the Genesis flood story.
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 18-3-2012 by CaptainNemo because: (no reason given)
Stupid? Of all the people notyourtypical would say such things.
Originally posted by vaelamin
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Bah leave such thoughts behind you. Forgiveness is freely given. I hold no transgressions.
Originally posted by Sly1one
Originally posted by CaptainNemo
Originally posted by Sly1one
Amenhotep I,II,III,IV
Amun Ra (aka Amen Ra)
"Amen" definitely seems as originally Egyptian...It makes sense to me that the old/new testaments of Christianity would recycle old information/terms/etc or simply mistranslate them. Another good example of the bible using outside works is the epic of Gilgamesh.
The bible old or new is like a collective plagiarized older works/stories of various civilizations. For this reason I would speculate that the term Amen is most likely originally Egyptian…
So where's the forensic, linguistic, or ethnological evidence that the Genesis flood story is a copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh?
Following your logic, we would have to assume that since the Sumerians were the first ordered civilization every similar story thereafter would have to be a copy of it. That is, that the other 150+ cultures, who have global flood stories are liars.
These stories originated through word of mouth, and there were nomadic peoples before the Sumerians who told this story. Mesopotamia having the resources, needs, and knowledge to write, wrote the story down FIRST to preserve it. That certainly does not mean the other tales are untrue, that's just preposterous.
Word of mouth stories have the ability to drastically be changed through the years. Gilgamesh wasn't even the only survivor of the flood. It's highly plausible that the story is so different from Genesis because it was changed to become more of a national, prideful hym to Sumeria, per se.
The Semitic language family includes the Near East region, and the Middle East region. So this includes Mesopotamia and Israel. The word Semitic is derived from the biblical character Shem. Shem, being one of Noah's sons after the flood. Also, the first settlers of the fertile crescent were nomadic peoples that came in from the south. SO, almost without a shadow of a doubt we can say that infact the, the Epic of Gilgamesh was a more pride-centric version of the Genesis flood story.
en.wikipedia.org...edit on 18-3-2012 by CaptainNemo because: (no reason given)
Take what I said and run a mile with it in the wrong direction if you wish...
I was merely implying that the BIBLE (new test) being a much younger COLLECTION OF WORKS is utilizing several EARLIER WORKS to tell a NEW STORY or CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC story...
The bible is similar to if I went into the local library cherry-picked a few different genres of books wrapped them all up into one tale and calling it something new...when it is not, its a collection of previously written earlier works.
I didn't mean to imply I thought the only flood story was Gilgamesh there are several other cultures that had flood stories this I understand, but the bible in particular due to its later creation would surely be using one of or several of the other earlier flood stories as its basis.
I see your posts how there filled with good demeanor and no insulting words. Even though you might not believe in Jesus i can feel that you do good unto people which is his message. How ironic it would be for you to pass and face no judgement in the eyes of the lord while the so called church goers who dont practice what they preach will face his judgement's. Even though your ideals may differ that in its self to me seems like a fellow believer atleast to me.