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Originally posted by longjohnbritches
the author
better known as Acharya which means something like "Hindu teacher"
Author of The Christ Conspiracy, The Greatest Story Ever Sold
She thinks Christ is a faberication
Check out "Stellar House Publishing" on the web.
Shoot just Google her. She has made a career of bashing not only Christians
but Christ himself.
Anyone on this thread that would deny this?
She believes Christianity is founded on earlier myths and the characters depicted in Christianity are based upon Roman, Greek, Egyptian, and other myths
Originally posted by Danbones
One aspect of this article is that it states they felt the need to protect their holy site from Christians.
This intrigues me...
Why do christians have to destroy and/or build on top of other people's holy sites?
Also do you have a favourite example of a holy site that Christians have built on top of, or is there such a site where you are?edit on 17-3-2012 by Danbones because: spelling grammer
Originally posted by Danbones
Originally posted by Malcher
Originally posted by Danbones
if you want to bash the authors opinion
fine
state the opinion you disagree with
then prove its wrong
where have you done that?
SHOW ME!
That is not how things work though.
If i tell you i have a little green elf locked in a box but dont have the key to let him out. Then i demand proof that there is no green elf in the box or else we are to assume that since you cannot prove there is nor green elf then ther is a green elf in the box.
Is this normal to you?
here at ATS the accepted decorum is if you make a statement the readers have a right to ask
link please
to not do that while demanding others do so is considered bad form at best
hypocritical at worst
go ahead ask anyone
have you not noticed the HOAX bin?
for those that make unsubstantiated claims etc
my favourite christians tell me to be a hypocrit is the worst sin of all
methinks you give christians a bad name all by your self by behaving soedit on 18-3-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)edit on 18-3-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by blueorder
Originally posted by Danbones
One aspect of this article is that it states they felt the need to protect their holy site from Christians.
This intrigues me...
Why do christians have to destroy and/or build on top of other people's holy sites?
Also do you have a favourite example of a holy site that Christians have built on top of, or is there such a site where you are?edit on 17-3-2012 by Danbones because: spelling grammer
This intrigues you in 2012, the POSSIBLE (bearing in mind this is just a guess/suggestion from someone, not a fact) destruction and/or building on top of other people's holy sites from Christians over a thousand years ago?
Seriously?
Maybe hop in a time machine and ask emedit on 18-3-2012 by blueorder because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Danbones
what an odd statement
well since I am decendant from a people who had it done to them maybe I have an interest
the sites moto is deny ingnorance not perpetrate it
Originally posted by Malcher
Originally posted by Danbones
Originally posted by Malcher
Originally posted by Danbones
if you want to bash the authors opinion
fine
state the opinion you disagree with
then prove its wrong
where have you done that?
SHOW ME!
That is not how things work though.
If i tell you i have a little green elf locked in a box but dont have the key to let him out. Then i demand proof that there is no green elf in the box or else we are to assume that since you cannot prove there is nor green elf then ther is a green elf in the box.
Is this normal to you?
here at ATS the accepted decorum is if you make a statement the readers have a right to ask
link please
to not do that while demanding others do so is considered bad form at best
hypocritical at worst
go ahead ask anyone
have you not noticed the HOAX bin?
for those that make unsubstantiated claims etc
my favourite christians tell me to be a hypocrit is the worst sin of all
methinks you give christians a bad name all by your self by behaving soedit on 18-3-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)edit on 18-3-2012 by Danbones because: (no reason given)
Dan, how am i supposed to substantiate asking someone for proof?
You want to believe so you do believe. I see absolutely nothing that substantiates the claims in the articles. Do you or are you merely content in attacking someone who asks for proof. Do you not like proof?
Define: Substantiate
www.google.com...=en&sa=X&ei=D3tmT47eF_GB0QHButGSCA&ved=0CBgQBSgA&q=substantiate&spell=1&ba v=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=590ed4f3649af2e1&ix=sea&ion=1&biw=1130&bih=978
Synonyms:
prove - corroborate - confirm - verify - establish
You are pulling out too many cards here.
Card one: Your claim that i need to prove that asking for proof needs proof. Proof of what exactly?
Card Two: Your claim asking for proof is against the sites rules. I never saw such a rule on a forum before.
Card Three: Your claim that i speak for Christians. I made no such claim and would say that i do not speak for anyone but myself.
Has nothing to do with Religion at all just if someone is making up stories and saying the story is true i ask for proof. Is there something inherently wrong with asking for proof or are we all supposed to be sheeple? Baaaahhh.
Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
Originally posted by longjohnbritches
the author
better known as Acharya which means something like "Hindu teacher"
Author of The Christ Conspiracy, The Greatest Story Ever Sold
She thinks Christ is a faberication
Check out "Stellar House Publishing" on the web.
Shoot just Google her. She has made a career of bashing not only Christians
but Christ himself.
Anyone on this thread that would deny this?
She believes Christianity is founded on earlier myths and the characters depicted in Christianity are based upon Roman, Greek, Egyptian, and other myths
en.wikipedia.org...
Well, she's not completely wrong. A lot of what mainstream Christianity is has too many similarities with older beliefs. It seems to have absorbed many different beliefs to accommodate different people, in other words it became a political thing. If she states that the man "Jesus" never existed though, well that's wrong.
Originally posted by Malcher
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Apparently you do not like this, but you are going to have to get used to this. We are not sheep at the trough.
Originally posted by MrSinister
If anyone has an actual interest in the find (not christian-bashing and bickering) this 13-page document (in danish) describes the site pretty well. Some nice pics included
www.transpersonlig.no...
I thought I did rationalize it by calling it a political move. /shrug
Even if you could know the truth of the day, could you rationalize the concepts of the day with your modern brain. I think not well.
The people here are trying expose certain things. It's our history and we have a right to learn. They may be going at it a little aggressively but that's fine. I guess I see your point anyway.
The point is, in this thread, is that she hijacked a discovery in Norway and some here are eatting it up like a shark feeding frenzy on nothing but myth and absolutly no proof.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Malcher
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Apparently you do not like this, but you are going to have to get used to this. We are not sheep at the trough.
Where exactly are the extraordinary claims? The archaeological process shows that the site was hidden or sealed. You can tell by comparing the matrix covering the site with that around it.
Then the lead investigator says that from his experience as a scientist, this site is a temple site. OK, we can trust him on that, right?
Then he states that elements are missing from the sealed site, and that it was the habit of the Norse to take those elements with them to use in new temple sites. History shows that there was an influx of pagan Norse in Iceland about this time. Why would they hide the site as they left? Christians destroyed the old temple sites...but the land was still sacred to the pagans.
Again, what's all the hub-bub, Bub?
Are you trying to say that it is bashing Christianity to refer to coercive conversion? Wrong argument.
You'll note I have already questioned the initial link...something smells about the process. But the archaeologist provides the relevant opinions on what he has there, and he has spent a lot of time in his studies acquiring the knowledge to make such a determination. We haven't seen the site reports, so his opinion is the best material available at this time...but it is an educated opinion. Again, I really don't see what has your knickers in a knot unless you take offence at the inference that Christians destroyed the liturgical elements of those who came before. Tough. They did.
Originally posted by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Malcher
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Apparently you do not like this, but you are going to have to get used to this. We are not sheep at the trough.
Where exactly are the extraordinary claims? The archaeological process shows that the site was hidden or sealed. You can tell by comparing the matrix covering the site with that around it.
Then the lead investigator says that from his experience as a scientist, this site is a temple site. OK, we can trust him on that, right?
Then he states that elements are missing from the sealed site, and that it was the habit of the Norse to take those elements with them to use in new temple sites. History shows that there was an influx of pagan Norse in Iceland about this time. Why would they hide the site as they left? Christians destroyed the old temple sites...but the land was still sacred to the pagans.
Again, what's all the hub-bub, Bub?
Are you trying to say that it is bashing Christianity to refer to coercive conversion? Wrong argument.
You'll note I have already questioned the initial link...something smells about the process. But the archaeologist provides the relevant opinions on what he has there, and he has spent a lot of time in his studies acquiring the knowledge to make such a determination. We haven't seen the site reports, so his opinion is the best material available at this time...but it is an educated opinion. Again, I really don't see what has your knickers in a knot unless you take offence at the inference that Christians destroyed the liturgical elements of those who came before. Tough. They did.
Hi Johnny,
How can we believe you when you say you are an archeoligist?
Can you post the definition of one and show how it hub bubs off your post above.
Thanks ljb
Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
reply to post by longjohnbritches
Hello.
I thought I did rationalize it by calling it a political move. /shrug
Even if you could know the truth of the day, could you rationalize the concepts of the day with your modern brain. I think not well.
The people here are trying expose certain things. It's our history and we have a right to learn. They may be going at it a little aggressively but that's fine. I guess I see your point anyway.
The point is, in this thread, is that she hijacked a discovery in Norway and some here are eatting it up like a shark feeding frenzy on nothing but myth and absolutly no proof.
There's more info here though where she goes into greater detail: www.freethoughtnation.com...
Originally posted by longjohnbritches
Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
reply to post by longjohnbritches
Hello.
I thought I did rationalize it by calling it a political move. /shrug
Even if you could know the truth of the day, could you rationalize the concepts of the day with your modern brain. I think not well.
The people here are trying expose certain things. It's our history and we have a right to learn. They may be going at it a little aggressively but that's fine. I guess I see your point anyway.
The point is, in this thread, is that she hijacked a discovery in Norway and some here are eatting it up like a shark feeding frenzy on nothing but myth and absolutly no proof.
There's more info here though where she goes into greater detail: www.freethoughtnation.com...
hey AM
Oh yeah when I look at the post it does seem that I was zeroing in on you.
I was generalizing about how hard it is to know, feel and smell things that far back in our past with any amount of certainty. My bad
Thanks for the link.
Any bets on where her bankroll comes from?
later
Originally posted by ironorchid
reply to post by MrSinister
Mr. Sinister you are a breath of fresh air in what could have been a really good thread - thanks for the links.
Thought I would add this link www.guardian.co.uk...[/url] which shows a recent discovery in Cambridge UK of an Anglo Saxon burial just on the cusp of Christianity, combining elements that are both pagan and Christian.
Nothing wrong in hedging your bets eh?